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Tagrel
02-10-2004, 07:04 AM
Found this over on CBS site: (This is a running report, they do they at lots of different places, Disney just happens to be the latest.)

Original Article: Eat At Your Own Risk: Disney World (http://cbsnewyork.com/investigates/local_story_040205229.html)

Eat At Your Own Risk: Disney World

A CBS 2 Special Report

Feb 9, 2004 11:00 pm US/Eastern
NEW YORK (CBS) The upcoming Presidents' Day week is one of the busiest times of the year at Walt Disney World Resorts, when thousands of families head south for their February break for fun in the sun. But how safe is the food?

In an exclusive Eat At Your Own Risk investigation, Kirstin Cole takes a look at dozens of Disney restaurant health inspection records, uncovering critical health code violations.

"This year plan a gathering with your circle of loved ones," the Walt Disney World commercial said during the Super Bowl.

It was a commercial like this that brought Dr. Bruce Boyd and his family to Walt Disney World last May, a promised trip to one of his seven-year-old twins for having her tonsils out.

"Well, it was fun at first but the time when daddy got sick it was boring," recalls Sarah Boyd.

The Boyds say their long-awaited vacation to Walt Disney World was cut short when dad got sick after eating at a restaurant in Epcot. "I was pretty much laying in bed the whole time and doubled over with cramps and about every 45 minutes I was in the bathroom," Bruce Boyd remembers.

Children of all ages will see their dreams come true by getting a magical Disney World vacation this February break. There's an adventure for everybody and a whole kingdom of restaurants to delight in, but could your lunch turn your stomach more than the twirling tea cup ride?

In an exclusive Eat At Your Own Risk investigation CBS 2 examined the health inspection records of over 150 Walt Disney Resort eateries and found half had at least one critical health code violation in 2003. Violations health officials in Tallahassee say can make you sick.

"Keep your hands clean, keep your working surfaces clean, keep correct temperatures. They are very basic things but can avoid food-borne illness," says Geoff Luebkemann from the Department of Business & Professional Regulation.

Disney promises lunch fit for a princess at Cinderella's Royal Table, tucked away the inside of the magical castle, but when inspectors were there last August they found two critical health code violations lurking. The turkey, the ham and the cheese were all held at dangerous temperatures, which experts say can lead to the growth of harmful bacteria.

"Bacteria causes food-borne illness or can lead to it," Luebkemann says.

The 'Tower of Terror' isn't the only thing that may be dishing out upset stomachs at the Disney resorts. Beyond the critical health code violations, the state of Florida received eight complaints in 2003 from Disney guests of food poisoning.

"I don't tend to complain," Boyd says. But he was so ill he filed a complaint with the state, saying he got a serious bout of food-borne illness at the Coral Reef Restaurant in Epcot Center.

Test results confirmed Boyd had salmonella poisoning. "I'm no public health expert but apparently they have some contamination going on," Boyd says.

When inspectors visited the Coral Reef Restaurant last May they found no violations related to Dr. Boyd's food-borne illness complaint but they did find another violation. Vegetables, couscous and sausage all being held at unsafe temperatures.

"We are very proud of our food safety record and certainly one guest who has a bad experience here is one too many," says Disney spokesperson Jacquee Polak.

Polak proudly points out they serve more than 100 million meals a year and says they're a leader in food safety. "The USDA, the FDA and other local health officials have used us for their training ground and we think the system we have in place is effective and when there is an error we make the correction."

They insist they work hard to avoid violations and try to correct them immediately. "Of the millions and millions of guests who visit us every year, eight of those guests filed a health complaint and we think that is outstanding," Polak adds.

But it was no fun for ten people at the Disney Beach Club Resort last July. According to state records, after digging in to the clam bake at the Cape May Café they reported classic symptoms of food poisoning, including nausea, diarrhea and the chills. They called the state and blamed the steamed clams but when inspectors showed up two weeks later, they say they found no violations.

"These specific guests who had a bad experience here it wasn't prolific with the dining experience and if you had a problem we certainly would make sure it was addressed correctly," Polak tells CBS 2.

A New Jersey woman who says she was sickened after eating chicken and pasta at The Brown Derby Restaurant in MGM Studios last October complained directly to Disney but when CBS 2 tracked her down she wouldn't appear on camera because she says Disney paid her cash not to talk.

"Is it a common practice to sign confidentiality agreement?," Cole asked. "It's an agreement, this is basically to cover and protect both parties," Polak answered.

But when inspectors investigated the chicken and pasta complaint they uncovered diced chicken held at potentially hazardous temperatures, just one of 77 Disney Resort restaurants to have critical, dangerous violations in 2003.

LimeGreenCheri
02-10-2004, 07:53 AM
I've not gotten sick after eating anything at Disney, but I will say that in December, we were the first table seated at CRT and the floor was filthy. It had not been vaccumed from the day before. I just tried really hard not to think about what the kitchen looked like if the serving area was so dirty.

Scottwdw
02-10-2004, 09:59 AM
I have never had a problem eating at any Disney restaurant or fast food location. When you think of the number of meals, the number of people who handle the food and the number of guests (with varying degrees of physiologies), it's amazing to me they have so few complaints. Having said that I'm sure they will step up their efforts now with such media coverage.

Again, if you see anything you do not like at WDW, you should contact them directly. WDW is a huge place and customer emails both positive and negative help them do a better job.

LisaS
02-10-2004, 10:07 AM
Actually, I watched this broadcast last night and it is to be continued tonight. It is a special report from CBS 2, the NYC CBS affiliate. The reporter does not just do these kind of stories, this just happens to be part of a Health Watch series - this is not something they do all around as part of a series. I did watch it and in fact, the people who got sick, really got sick. There were very few of them, given the number of meals served, but it is an indicator of food handling practices. The number of restaurants in WDW having health violations is quite significant - and I was disappointed in the Disney rep's response. Since more than half of the 150 restaurants checked on had violations on file with the state of Florida, I really think a serious effort needs to be made on Disney's part. Of course I love Disney and would never let this stop me from going (or going out to eat in my local area!!) but given the resources available and the Disney image, they better clean up their act in food handling and prep - and not show an unseemly side to the facilities, such that Cheri observed at CRT - (and CRT was one of the restaurants mentioned with two critical health code violations). For sure, I will make sure that my food is well cooked - and I would encourage people to report anything that doesn't appear right to Disney - a little public pressure will help assure that the best place on earth stays that way!!

LisaS

Tagrel
02-10-2004, 11:18 AM
Sorry, I just meant it was part of a series, and that WDW was not the only group targeted. Other, highly visible restaurants were also found lacking...

Hope it kickstarts better WDW practices... Its not like they don't charge enough to support excellent food handling! :)

LisaS
02-10-2004, 11:41 AM
Oh please, Dave, don't be "sorry" I didn't mean to come on so strong - I just think that a better than 50% rate on restaurants with violations is Un-Disney!! I also didn't want the impression to be given that this was a report looking at a bunch of vacation destinations - this report is isolated to Disney for some reason (perhaps the sensationalism??) but that regardless, for the money we spend, we should be able to expect a better health code record than this!!

Belle
02-10-2004, 11:50 AM
I agree - to have spent over $100 on dinner for 2, only to have it rapidly evacuated from your body is not a fun experience - ask DH about our trip to LeCellier a year ago! He was too embarressed to report it - ya know the whole bodily functions thing, but I was steamed. Then to hear about this and Disney's response, grrrr.... For the amount of money we spend there - between admission and eating alone, these restaurants should be maintaining the highest compliance standards. I don't expect much for my .69 hamburger from McD's, but I expect alot for a $40. piece of steak! So, as I said in another thread - pass the Pre-packaged Smucker's PB&J, please...

{hugs}
Belle

MissBianca
02-10-2004, 12:03 PM
Has anyone compared this inspection record with that of typical restaurants? It used to be a rule in Washington State that they would publish all the Health Department inspection results in the newspaper. Restaurants that I'd been to (without incident) and that seemed perfectly clean and safe to me sometimes had 20 or more findings from just one visit! Eeew!

I am very interested in this situation since eating is one of my favorite things to do at WDW but I would like to see a better statistical analysis of the situation before saying that "Disney" has a problem. I'd also like to see how they fared in prior years, as well, to see if there is a pattern of findings that represents standards improving or (gulp) deteriorating. I am sure that well-trained, experienced, happy employees are the first line of defense in this situation.

What would you pay for a meal with a 100% guarantee of safety? Realize that would mean that extraordinary measures would have to be taken, such as testing of each specific delivery of meat, eggs, etc. Oh, and all food would have to be prepared to order--no fast food, no buffets. I'm not really surprised that there's a well documented case from the Cape May seafood buffet. In fact, concern about that is one of the reasons I've never tried it!

MargaretJ
02-10-2004, 01:38 PM
A New Jersey woman who says she was sickened after eating chicken and pasta at The Brown Derby Restaurant in MGM Studios last October complained directly to Disney but when CBS 2 tracked her down she wouldn't appear on camera because she says Disney paid her cash not to talk.


I got Food Poisioning a few years ago after eating at Coronado Springs Pepper Market. I ended up in the Emergency Room for 6 hrs. Disney paid for the Ambulance but did not offer to pay me!

SuzyQ
02-10-2004, 02:20 PM
You wanna hear about health violations - I worked at three upscale (I'm talking famous people had theri OWN tables at these restaurants) restaraunts in New York City and the kitchens were disgusting! Having just come from a Disney restuarant where we were talked too repeatedly about the quality of the food preparation and safety (seriously, one of the cleanest kitchens I have ever seen) it was a shock to see these "fine" restaurants cutting up chicken in basements (as many of the kitchens are in NYC) and throwing the pieces in tupperare on the floor - there are all kinds of pests in these places simply because the building are old. I could go on about some of the other things I saw (so much so, I quit because of my conscience), but I will refrain - too close to lunch over here. ;)

MissBianca had a good point. It is really easy to get a bad inspection (someone just stocked the refrigerator, thus the door left open for a while - pop a thermometer in there and you have a violation). I'm sure that there are many restaurants who have had superior ratings, but over all, I agree that Disney dishes out so many meals a year, a few cases (as much as my heart and stomach go out to those who suffered) is a small percentage. :)

But, Disney makes for a good story . . . :shrug:

LisaS
02-10-2004, 03:11 PM
I promise!!! this will be my last post on this subject!!!! But I find it interesting that in this thread with nine posts, two different people reported getting food poisoning (or something like it)!! Belle's husband and Margaret J -

I also agree that it is easy to be cited for violations and that there are different degrees of offenses - - And I also agree that you would't believe what goes on in many upscale restaurant kitchens!!

Well, none of us are obviously going to let this change the way we feel about WDW, but I just worry when people are just matter of fact about things like this - it's ok to want to know more and to require explanations - if we are passive about stuff like this, a difference cannot be made!! Now that's the end for me, but I have increased my post total and no one actually got angry with me!!! So, I'll consider it a good deal!!

LisaS

Tagrel
02-10-2004, 04:36 PM
Getting angry isn't allowed! :winking: All opinions welcome! :)

We all have our own opinions, and I happen to agree with you completely on this one. For the food prices WDW charges, I expect no less than strict adherance to ALL Food Preparations laws. Period. That is their responsibility to their customers, and if they fail then they must be held responsible.

There will always be Disney fans that will cut the Mouse lots of slack. I'm of the opinion that EVERYONE makes mistakes, and its the true fans job to keep Disney honest. Just like anyone, if they hear no complaints, then no one must care. Its our job to set them straight when they make mistakes. Many people roared over EE, and it did come back - so they DO listen - when the complaints are extensive enough...

Sheryl
02-10-2004, 06:33 PM
Having worked in the food business for over 20 years, the fact that Disney has restaurants with violations does not surprise me. There are many different types of violations on the Health Departments report, most of them being considered severe and yet many of them happen even in our own homes. Now, I am not excusing Disney for their violations, but merely saying, they do happen everyhwere.

I guess I am not bothered by this because most people do not see the Health Departments reports. What you do see at most restaurants is a certificate from the Board of Health stating the place was inspected. A restaurant can have quite a few voilations and yet be allowed to serve. Gross, I agree, but you can bet that there will be an unbelieveable amount of voilations this Saturday night when many are eating out for Valentine's Day, and many, in very respectable places.

Basically, it happens, like it or not. You can make two choices, eat at home all the time or venture out and take a chance. Now if you should get sick, by all means, do something about it. Take the right steps and let it be known. I agree that Disney needs to do something to keep this from happening, but there is no guarantee in anything we do no matter how much we pay.

:mickeyWalk: Sheryl :minnie:

MargaretJ
02-10-2004, 07:28 PM
LisaS when I got sick we reported it to Disney right away & they knew that one of their restaurants was the culprit as this was the last day of a 8 day trip. Disney was very nice and concerned (they probably were worried I would sue) & as I mentioned they paid for the Ambulance. They also allowed us to stay as late as we needed the next day & checked on me throughout the day. They also asked many questions about where I had eaten & such so my hope was that was to check out the food etc. I have to admit I did not want to eat at the Pepper Market for a few years & I do not eat at any Disney restaurant that looks dirty.

BetsyAnn
02-10-2004, 08:47 PM
Very interesting article, great discussion. :D

In one of my lifetimes ago I worked as a waitress and then as a cook a couple of places. One place worked very hard to keep everything up to standard and above. On our health inspection reports there were a couple of things that needed improvements and they were addressed immediately -- you can't have regular customers if you keep making people sick.

This may be were it is a little to Disney's advantage when it comes to food issues. In December there were a whole bunch of us sick with what we called the stomach flu - and I have no reason to believe that is not what it was - beginning of vacation, not eating at the same places and such -- but who knows?!?!?! Will it keep me away from Disney - no - Will it make me pay a little more attention to temp. of food when it is served - yes.

And I was with LGCheri on the trip to the castle and mentioned it in my trip report - very bad form Disney -- And I did pay attention to the food temp. there and it was all served hot. There will always be human error in doing very human things - like preparing food, checking ride safety, interacting with guests - it does not excuse the behavior or the errors - just does not surprise me that errors can and will be made - and at times the cost for such errors will be high!

Owl
02-11-2004, 12:23 AM
But when we were at CSR 5 years ago w/my lil daughter... 2 1/2 at the time, she got ill on the 3rd day of the visit... horrible intestinal thing going on.... the day prior she was in the kiddie pool. It lasted through the whole trip.. not pleasant at all (esp. since the adults were just getting over being very sick that Fall -- between sciatica and pneumonia.. it was supposed to be a reward for the kids). Well when we got home she was still ill... did a sample, unf. on one the lab mishandled it but the urine sample came back with e-coli. If the other wasn't lost we would definintely have reported it to Disney.. it took a long time till she was 100% ... but since we had returned home we didn't inform Disney.. just be VERY careful of the pools.

Brer
02-11-2004, 09:34 AM
Interesting thread here,but if my family or I get sick with Disney being the culprit, a lousy ambulance ride will be the least of their worries. Another day of park tockets and a stay at the GF in concierge will be a good start. Pain and suffering comes to mind. My Dad spent 3-4 days in the hospital a few years back after a bout of food poisoning after eating at a national chain sandwich shop. He didn't sue,but he was in agony and my Mom was worried sick(no pun intended

Lady
02-19-2004, 04:12 PM
The only problem I ever had was at the Clam Bake at the Beach Resort - there was a string - heavy twine - in my mashed potatoes - I did not get sick but it was still a turn off to an enjoyable anniversary week : ) The waiter took my plate to the back to look at it - he came back telling me it was a root of a potato - (no it wasn't!) Tramp and I both know what twine looks like - what bothered us - was he took it away and brought back the same plate with my same food including the mashed potatoes without the twine - iccckkkkkk - then we told the manager about it all - our meal was comped but still - we won't go back there again.
Shell

Kylara
02-20-2004, 08:51 PM
Missbianca, the Orlando Sentinel does publish health code violations for resturants about once a month in the Sunday paper. Just wanted to address your comment about them being published in your home town.

I am often amazed to see some of the resturants listed when it comes out. There is usually one or two of the "nicer" resturants that make the list for some critical violation. And I suspect that just about every resturant on 192 has been written up at least once. :lol:

But that doesn't mean that Disney shouldn't strive to do better. Anytime violations are pointed out, they need to be corrected asap. But to point out one thing I didn't notice in the report, usually when a resturant is written up they are given a time frame to correct and then re-inspected (that date is also listed in the newspaper along with how they did if it is past the re-inspection date).