Pressed Pennies - Savings where you are stayin 10/10/04

21:06:37 [LimeGreenC] I'm ready to see Mickey, ut that's not anything new l)

21:06:44 [LimeGreenC]

21:06:51 [BetsyAnn] tired, frustrated and needing a good laugh!

21:07:11 [SuzyQ] We are both SOOO ready for our little excursion to the Mouse House

21:07:21 [BetsyAnn] I am always ready to see Mickey!

21:07:31 [Bookwood] I'm sorry to hear that! I was a pretty low key weekend here

21:07:38 [SuzyQ] Sorry to hear that BetsyAnn - Cheri, go cheer her up!

21:07:46 [LimeGreenC] I have to admit though, the trip to the beach was very nice and relaxing

21:07:57 [Bookwood] Me too and I'm so bummed I can't go to mousefest this year!

21:08:08 [LimeGreenC] I saw some great t-shirts in Savannah that would make her laugh

21:08:08 [BetsyAnn] I love the beach!

21:08:11 [SuzyQ] I'm glad to hear that Cheri - you deserved it - and NEEDED it I'm sure

21:08:25 [BetsyAnn] did you see some more. Cheri!

21:08:34 [SuzyQ] No doubt the shirts you saw have a lot of **** on them

21:08:37 [LimeGreenC] it was nice to think about nothing

21:08:52 [LimeGreenC] I did Betsy but I can only remember the one

21:08:54 [LimeGreenC] it said

21:09:03 [SuzyQ] Here's Del's funny thought (a sign he saw yesterday) "If we quit voting, will they go away?"

21:09:15 [LimeGreenC] You must have fallen into a big pile of dumb s$%^t

21:09:25 [LimeGreenC] LOL Del

21:09:33 [BetsyAnn] lol Del

21:09:38 [LimeGreenC] I wanted that shirt soooo bad

21:09:53 [BetsyAnn] and LOL Cheri!

21:10:06 [SuzyQ] OOOps, forgive my stars (**) Didn't mean for that to write out the way it sounded.

21:10:15 [BetsyAnn] Could have used that on Sat!

21:10:23 [LimeGreenC] Bookwood, I wish you could go to mousefest too!

21:10:39 [SuzyQ] Bookwood, do you have a trip in the works??

21:10:42 [BetsyAnn] me, too Bookwood!

21:10:45 [Bookwood] I like Del's sign!! Think we could get a law passed that the only campaining could be 30 days before the election?

21:11:19 [SuzyQ] Great idea, Bookwood . . . then we'd k now when to turn the TV off

21:11:19 [LimeGreenC] the campaigning in Savannah had so much mudslinging it was pitiful

21:11:26 [SuzyQ] Hi Disneylove - welcome!

21:11:29 [LimeGreenC] Hey disneylover!

21:11:37 [BetsyAnn] I love elections - tell me where else on this planet we can legally and peacefully over throw the governement

21:11:39 [disneylove] hi everyone

21:11:42 [Bookwood] Half-marathon in Jan. no one seems ready to plan meets and such though since lots of them have mousefest first!

21:11:44 [BetsyAnn] Hey disneylover!

21:12:00 [Bookwood] Ho Disneylove

21:12:01 [SuzyQ] I like elections, just not campaigning

21:12:07 [LimeGreenC] Betsy, you and I can NOT discuss politics ---- remember

21:12:33 [SuzyQ] Anywhosals . . . Anyone up for some chattin' on DISNEY & MONEY (a couple of my two favorite subjects)

21:12:36 [BetsyAnn] You all should plan away, Bookwook - not much past MouseF

21:12:37 [LimeGreenC] Bookwood, I'm hoping to find a way to scoot down for the marathon for the weekend, we'll see

21:12:58 [LimeGreenC] I'm ready Suzy

21:13:11 [Bookwood] We had had a pretty clean campaign here in Indiana for Gov. until current gov realized he was behind in the polls1

21:13:17 [BetsyAnn] LOL - I was not discussing politics LG - talking about our form of governement

21:13:26 [BetsyAnn] Bring it on!

21:13:29 [SuzyQ] Good! disneylove - do you have a trip in the works?

21:13:55 [LimeGreenC] the politics or the mousehouse?

21:14:01 [Bookwood] I'm all for Disney and $ How do you budget???

21:14:10 [BetsyAnn] the mousehouse!

21:14:11 [Timon] Hi all

21:14:14 [LimeGreenC] Hey Timon, Welcome

21:14:19 [BetsyAnn] Hey Timon!

21:14:29 [SuzyQ] OK who here even makes a budget of sorts when they plan for their trip (I already know betsyann is out on this one)

21:14:34 [SuzyQ] Hey Timon!

21:14:48 [LimeGreenC] I've been trying to put money back every week for the Dec trip

21:14:50 [Bookwood] Hey Mark!! How are Robby and Janice???

21:15:12 [Timon] Doing well thank you Pam

21:15:27 [LimeGreenC] I have to have some sembleance (sp)of a budget, or I can't go

21:15:39 [BetsyAnn] Oh - i have a budget for trips - - like it paid up front if I can

21:15:44 [SuzyQ] Cheri, do you just put a certain amount cash in a jar each week or so?

21:15:49 [disneylove] coming up in 67 days

21:15:54 [Timon] There 3 of us and we budget $100.00/day

21:16:19 [disneylove] we do to Timon unless we have a PS

21:16:20 [Timon] That should be there are 3 of us

21:16:36 [SuzyQ] Timon, is the $100/day for food only or including other things?

21:16:36 [LimeGreenC] I shoot for a certain $ amount each week in my Disney envelope, but if I can't make that, I put what I can

21:16:43 [disneylove] that is just food tho

21:17:16 [Timon] We even do it w/PS's disneylove. We're just real cheap on the days we don't have one.

21:17:21 [Bookwood] We usually eat only one meal out (lunch) if that many- my last 2 trips have been at hte cabins and "bare bones" type trips

21:17:22 [SuzyQ] Does it make a difference on how much you put aside/budget depending on where you stay?

21:17:25 [BetsyAnn] When I am at Disney - I have envolpes for each day with $$ in them - any money left over from one day can be spent on any other day

21:17:47 [disneylove] hard to do timon with 2 teens and 2 adults

21:17:49 [Timon] That's for everything. but remember I'm a DVC member so cooking in the room is an option.

21:17:52 [SuzyQ] That's a great idea, BetsyAnn -

21:18:38 [SuzyQ] Do you all find that food is the BIGGEST part of your budget?

21:18:53 [LimeGreenC] I'm going to have to be a little tighter with my money in December than I had planned since we went out of town this past weekend

21:19:00 [Timon] Easily

21:19:04 [LimeGreenC] yes, food is the Biggest

21:19:09 [BetsyAnn] After lodging and tickets - yes food biggest

21:19:28 [SuzyQ] Since most of you have been to WDW many times, do you still buy souvies for friends and family?

21:19:28 [Bookwood] I have to admit we stay value (or free) usually- except at the cabins which saved alot on food

21:19:29 [disneylove] BA we do that too so even tho we put $100 away most times we don't spend it it carries over

21:19:38 [SuzyQ] Hello Jimbolini1!

21:19:46 [Bookwood] Hey Jim

21:19:49 [Jimbolini1] Hi all

21:19:49 [LimeGreenC] Hey Jim

21:19:50 [disneylove] NO SuzyQ hotel is

21:19:54 [BetsyAnn] Hey Jim

21:19:57 [Timon] Hey Jim

21:20:06 [disneylove] hi Jim

21:20:22 [Jimbolini1] signing up for most of the meets

21:20:27 [SuzyQ] disneylove - do you prefer delux hotels?

21:20:29 [Bookwood] Honestly for us Tickets are the biggest part of the trip with hotels being second - a close second

21:20:37 [Jimbolini1] thanks for the welcome

21:20:41 [BetsyAnn] I do usually come home with money that way - but I also have been known to take all the lefter and pay a big souvign!

21:21:00 [SuzyQ] OK, so let's look at tickets for a minute -

21:21:13 [BetsyAnn] Good Suzy!

21:21:16 [disneylove] we save the change year round to include DW that way we start over there

21:21:22 [BetsyAnn] I have a AP question or two?

21:21:32 [SuzyQ] Are most of you able to pre-purchase at a Disney store? Or do you get them online through a broker (like floridatickets)?

21:21:52 [SuzyQ] Go a head B

21:22:08 [disneylove] yes suzy they have the queen beds DH and I are not small and DS is around 5"11" needs big bed

21:22:15 [BetsyAnn] any discouts out there on AP?

21:22:20 [LimeGreenC] I usually get AP's so I have to get them at the gate

21:22:23 [Jimbolini1] Hey room I have an announcement. I don't know if anyone told you, but...

21:22:40 [SuzyQ] so far, the only discounts available are for those renewing. The disney club used to give a discount

21:22:43 [disneylove] they ebned today

21:23:26 [disneylove] AP gotten at DS

21:23:26 [SuzyQ] "ebned"???

21:23:35 [disneylove] ended

21:23:41 [Bookwood] I pre-purchased my AP at DS. Last 2 sets of tickets have been through Disney Youth Programs

21:23:45 [Jimbolini1] 1. I got perm at IRS

21:24:02 [disneylove] cool

21:24:10 [SuzyQ] Congrats, Jim!!

21:24:23 [BetsyAnn] great news Jim!

21:24:27 [Jimbolini1] 2. I got a sweet performance award

21:24:35 [Bookwood] Congratulations Jim THat's great!!

21:24:45 [BetsyAnn] thanks on the AP discounts

21:24:57 [LimeGreenC] congrats Jime

21:25:02 [Timon] That's even better Jim

21:25:07 [SuzyQ] We are hoping that DVC will give a discount soon . . . but not holdinf our breath

21:25:19 [SuzyQ] holding

21:25:28 [BetsyAnn] so regular AP or premium or whatever they call it?

21:25:39 [SuzyQ] Do most of you choose to buy APs or do you plan for PH or PHP

21:25:55 [LimeGreenC] I wonder if you bought discounted tickets through a broker and then traded them on an AP if that would save you any money?

21:26:01 [SuzyQ] There are both AP and PAP (includes the water parks and PI and DQ)

21:26:06 [Jimbolini1] I usually get a package

21:26:08 [disneylove] we got PAP this trip

21:26:27 [LimeGreenC] We just get AP's

21:26:40 [SuzyQ] Cheri, I believe that each tickets "says" how much you paid - even through a broker, so I think you would come out the same

21:26:46 [BetsyAnn] I am a package person usually but going to get AP's this year

21:26:47 [Timon] Am I still here?

21:26:54 [Jimbolini1] I don't know if getting an AP would benefit if I get a package

21:27:02 [Timon] I guess so. I just got a timed out message.

21:27:06 [LimeGreenC] that makes sense Suzy

21:27:07 [BetsyAnn] I see you Timon!

21:27:09 [SuzyQ] what kind of package, Jim? Such as a dreammaker?

21:27:10 [Jimbolini1] Yes Mark

21:27:13 [Bookwood] I have a Premium Annual Pass- that has already paid for itself in discounts for our July trip and I hope to use it in January and again a couple of days in April

21:27:16 [LimeGreenC] yep Timon, you're still with us

21:27:16 [disneylove] has anyone here ever gotten tickets through a broker

21:27:26 [Jimbolini1] Yes SuzyQ

21:27:42 [LimeGreenC] I've used ticketmania and they were awesome

21:28:00 [SuzyQ] Yes - I buy ALL my PHP from floridatickets.com

21:28:03 [Timon] I've gotten them through Florida discount broker on line.

21:28:15 [Jimbolini1] I went to my travel agent

21:28:24 [Timon] That's the one SuzyQ

21:28:25 [Bookwood] I used Ticketmania a couple of years ago I was very happy with them

21:28:33 [Timon] You paid too much Jim.

21:28:35 [SuzyQ] We usually budget for APs when we think that we will go more than once/yr, but I buy PHs for the family

21:28:42 [disneylove] i really wish AAA would sell the AP with discount

21:29:01 [Jimbolini1] The day I flew home from my Canada trip, I ate at an RFC

21:29:22 [SuzyQ] We found that for PHs, the broker had better rates than AAA

21:29:25 [LimeGreenC] I think they should give discounts for APs, I know they got a ton of money out of me they wouldn't have gotten if I hadn't had one

21:29:37 [disneylove] since we have to be in that area every 3 months now we got the PAP go to BB in summer while DH is in meetings

21:29:38 [Bookwood] Does any one know a place to get 2-3 day tickets as inexpensively as possible?

21:30:06 [LimeGreenC] I was at Disney a total of 30 days

21:30:16 [SuzyQ] Sometimes, you can find a 3-day out there (or, dare I say, ebay)

21:30:27 [disneylove] cool cheri

21:30:36 [Bookwood] Wow Cheri now I'm the green one

21:31:03 [LimeGreenC] now I'm embarassed, I spent a whole month at Disney in one year

21:31:14 [LimeGreenC] holy smokes, they got a ton of my money!

21:31:22 [SuzyQ] correction: I buy my PHs at floridaorlandotickets.net

21:31:23 [disneylove] don't know if I would trust getting a ticket on e-bay

21:31:28 [BetsyAnn] lol cheri!

21:31:28 [Jimbolini1] On my screen which for some reason has only 16 colors, Timon shows up as yellow and bookwood as light blue. Brutal

21:31:54 [LimeGreenC] alamo sells 3 days hopper passes

21:32:19 [disneylove] LOL BW is a light green here timon id gold

21:32:20 [SuzyQ] tell us about it, Cheri - last year we spend something like 33 days! Cha Ching!!!

21:32:29 [Timon] Has anyone used Quick and Casual vouchers?

21:32:29 [disneylove] id=is

21:33:16 [SuzyQ] Mousesavers link re: 3-day; http://www.mousesavers.com/specwdwtix.html#short

21:33:24 [LimeGreenC] Timon, I've bought them but not used them yet

21:33:30 [SuzyQ] yes, Timon - many times

21:33:35 [Jimbolini1] Apparently Rainforest Cafe's are allover the place

21:33:37 [LimeGreenC] MargaretJ had great luck with her vouchers

21:33:44 [Bookwood] We used somethings similar with the Youth Programs again

21:33:59 [Bookwood] THanks Suzy Q

21:34:38 [SuzyQ] Does anyone know if you can get Q&C anyplace other than hotwire

21:34:54 [SuzyQ] (excluding ebay where they really take advantage of poor unknowing people)

21:35:00 [LimeGreenC] I'm not sure Suzy, but Margaret had no problem canceling hotwire

21:35:47 [SuzyQ] We found that the best deals for Q&C were B&C (of course), Tangerine in Morocco, the restaurant at Coronado Springs

21:35:48 [Timon] I used them & Beaches and Cream and saved a fortune

21:35:52 [BetsyAnn] I was thinking of the vouchures too

21:36:02 [disneylove] can you pay for vouchers by check or do they only take CC

21:36:04 [LimeGreenC] I'm planning on using my vouchers in December, I've looked up all the menus on Deb's site and I still come out ahead by a few cents or so at every place offered

21:36:35 [SuzyQ] CC only - which is good since you can cancel payment if something bad happens (never had a problem)

21:36:40 [LimeGreenC] so I'm considering it like prepaying a meal

21:36:40 [disneylove] need to save money!

21:36:55 [Jimbolini1] hotwire.com?

21:36:56 [disneylove] bummer thanks suzy

21:37:09 [Jimbolini1] testing

21:37:17 [Jimbolini1] good

21:37:22 [Timon] We also used the b'fast vouchers for Cindy's which was also a bargain.

21:37:24 [SuzyQ] The only reason that we do not use vouchers so much anymore is because with just the 2 of us, we find that we don't want to eat both the entree, side AND dessert in one sitting - so it wouldn't really save us $$

21:37:58 [BetsyAnn] really Timon?

21:38:02 [SuzyQ] Yes, Timon - that is a good deal at Cindy's (and most of the other character bfast)

21:38:04 [LimeGreenC] where do you get the breakfast vouchers Timon?

21:38:38 [LimeGreenC] brb, I hear a child jumping off the top bunk

21:38:41 [SuzyQ] They sell the breakfast and lunch (they are for the sit-down restaurants) through hotwire as well

21:38:48 [Timon] They cost the same as Cindy's B'fast and include tax & tip so we saved 26%

21:38:58 [SuzyQ] just a flesh wound, cheri, I'm sure

21:39:05 [Jimbolini1] Q & C probably wouldn't do one person any good

21:39:23 [Timon] I got mine through the Hotwire buyers club.

21:39:30 [SuzyQ] Jim, only if you were a very hungry person and liked the desserts they offered

21:39:52 [Bookwood] NOt unless the one person ate alot Jim

21:39:54 [BetsyAnn] well need to check that out - thanks

21:39:59 [LimeGreenC] back, Ethan already has a gooseegg on his from doing that this afternoon arghhhh

21:40:02 [Timon] Sure they would Jim. Especially if you like to eat.

21:40:05 [LimeGreenC] head

21:40:30 [disneylove] boys

21:40:36 [BetsyAnn] Well it must not have hurt too bad -if he is doing it again!

21:40:41 [BetsyAnn]

21:40:44 [SuzyQ] Ahhh - thanks for completing that sentence, chari

21:40:46 [SuzyQ] cheri

21:40:48 [LimeGreenC] is there a dinner voucher?

21:40:56 [disneylove] love to give mom white hair before time

21:41:10 [LimeGreenC] LOL, he's wild I tell you!

21:41:15 [SuzyQ] I just call that REALLY bleach blonde

21:41:28 [Jimbolini1] kids. Glad I'm a SINK

21:41:39 [Timon] Not that I know of Cheri

21:41:47 [disneylove] ROFLOL

21:41:48 [LimeGreenC] LOL Jim

21:41:57 [SuzyQ] SO, we have a budget for hotels (where do all of you stay: with codes or DVC or offsite)

21:41:57 [Bookwood] Yeah Cheri some women pay alot for those highlights!

21:42:11 [LimeGreenC] that would be great if they did dinner vouchers, I bet you could really save some money there

21:42:21 [BetsyAnn] We got great rates at Moderates for mousefest

21:42:24 [disneylove] onsite...using code

21:42:27 [LimeGreenC] you are so right Bookwood

21:42:44 [disneylove] sigh missing mousefest by a week

21:42:47 [Timon] I stay in the ultimate bargain. DVC

21:42:55 [LimeGreenC] codes, I love codes, until I can afford DVC

21:42:59 [SuzyQ] No dinner vouchers that I've ever seen - only if you get a package from Disney (then you aren't saving any $$ anyways)

21:43:04 [BetsyAnn] when are you coming and going disneylove?

21:43:12 [disneylove] will be there the weekend before and the weekend after

21:43:23 [disneylove] Dec 18-Jan 2

21:43:27 [Bookwood] on site with codes- unless DH parts with some starwood points then it's the Dolphin consierge for us

21:43:34 [SuzyQ] what timing, disneylove!

21:43:39 [Jimbolini1] onsite. Vacation= no budget. Last year spent $760 down there in 12 days

21:43:54 [SuzyQ] oooooh! how many points does concierge take??

21:43:55 [disneylove] have to be in orlando dec 2-5

21:44:19 [BetsyAnn] just going to miss you!

21:44:20 [Bookwood] Disneylover- I leave for Florida the 3rd of Jan

21:44:46 [disneylove] just going to miss you then

21:44:51 [Jimbolini1] I'll be there Dec 8-15

21:45:05 [Bookwood] No extra points for the consierge- he's in some travel club at work

21:45:39 [SuzyQ] ah - gotcha. Just wanted to see how far we could stretch our starwood points (we racked up a lot on our Tahiti trip)

21:45:50 [BetsyAnn] that great rate at swan was tempting

21:46:06 [disneylove] maybe next year i'll try to talk Lady into going down together

21:46:11 [Bookwood] I won't actually get to WDW until the 6th- I'm visiting with my folks in Bonita Springs first

21:46:14 [Jimbolini1] Tahiti? MSE, SuzyQ

21:46:25 [LimeGreenC] the swan was tempting, but that resort is so big, and my friend will still be recovering from surgery

21:46:41 [SuzyQ] translate MSE for me, Jim.

21:47:19 [Jimbolini1] MSE= Most Sacred Excrement or Holy ish

21:47:33 [SuzyQ] ahhhhhh . . .

21:47:38 [Jimbolini1] lucky woman

21:47:39 [disneylove] LOL jim

21:48:04 [BetsyAnn] lol Jim

21:48:05 [SuzyQ] well, tahiti was great - BUT we still LOVE Disneyworld much, much better!!

21:48:47 [SuzyQ] Lastly, what do you budget for souvies? Since it seems we aren't buying as many these days . .

21:49:18 [BetsyAnn] I am moving to buying one great thing for me each trip

21:49:34 [LimeGreenC] I make my kids make a list through the trip and then let them get the 1 thing they really really want on the last day,

21:49:48 [LimeGreenC] believe it or not, it's usually under $20 each

21:49:54 [SuzyQ] My favorite budget-wise souvenier (as a nice gift) is an engraved beer glass (aka, coffee mug) from Eurospain

21:50:02 [Jimbolini1] WDW is my Christmas present to myself

21:50:03 [SuzyQ] Usually around $10-14

21:50:05 [Bookwood] I don't budget for them and that is what gets me in trouble every time! I usually plan on some pins and a shirt I can wear to school then maybe something for each of the kids

21:50:30 [SuzyQ] Del: We usually get a Christmas ornament each year

21:50:38 [LimeGreenC] Suzy, that is a cool gift, I want one!

21:50:53 [BetsyAnn] those pins can kill your budget

21:50:55 [disneylove] we do too suzy..the kids save thier money

21:50:56 [LimeGreenC] Hey Tink

21:51:08 [Tink1] hey gang

21:51:09 [Bookwood] I have also been know to buy Christmas ornaments

21:51:11 [BetsyAnn] Hey Tink

21:51:15 [disneylove] DS wants that R2D2 they have in MGM

21:51:19 [SuzyQ] I don't normally buy shirts at Disney unless they happen to be on one of those unusual "sale" racks. We get our Disney shirts/sweatshirts through the disney store

21:51:23 [LimeGreenC] my personal souvenier is usually a Christmas ornament

21:51:24 [Bookwood] Hi Tink1

21:51:26 [Jimbolini1] Hi Tink

21:51:26 [SuzyQ] Hi Nancy!

21:51:27 [BetsyAnn] I like to buy presents for others at WDW

21:51:47 [Timon] Hey Nanc!!!!! Did you get my email about my dw?

21:51:50 [SuzyQ] very cool, disneylove - we like starwars!

21:52:30 [Bookwood] Our DS has a lousy selection for adults so I buy there- actually at the outlets last time

21:52:46 [SuzyQ] Cheri - do you buy an ornament EACH time or just once a year??

21:52:48 [Tink1] yes Timon! have not had a chance to get to any of that yet. LOL

21:52:49 [LimeGreenC] seems I keep hearing thuds, I'll see everyone later

21:53:00 [LimeGreenC] each time suzy!

21:53:03 [SuzyQ] Bye Cheri!

21:53:03 [Tink1] I do the same Cheri, everywhere I go

21:53:05 [BetsyAnn] never been to the outlets - maybe this trip - someone I know will have a car!

21:53:12 [disneylove] buy cheri

21:53:16 [BetsyAnn] night Cheri

21:53:22 [LimeGreenC] thanks for coming everybody

21:53:30 [LimeGreenC] dream the magic

21:53:31 [Timon] Not a problem Nanci...Just wanted to make sure you got it.

21:53:38 [SuzyQ] Ya know - those outlets would probably save us $$ (used to shop there when I lived there), but we just don't like to leave WDW property once we get there!

21:53:39 [Timon] Nite Cheri

21:53:42 [Bookwood] Night Cheri

21:53:48 [Tink1] best buy I ever got at the outlet was a GF terry robe for $25

21:53:54 [Jimbolini1] Night Cheri

21:54:15 [BetsyAnn] Very good buy Tink

21:54:18 [SuzyQ] Wow, Nanc - great deal!

21:54:19 [disneylove] night everyone gonna watch the end of JohnQ

21:54:28 [Timon] That's a great buy Nanci

21:54:34 [Bookwood] If I had had to drive I wouldn't have gone either- I hate driving when I don't know where I"m going

21:54:39 [Tink1] guess what everyone got that Xmas? LOL

21:54:45 [Jimbolini1] I think I got a Chip n Dale Bobblehead at World of Disney for a friend on LI

21:55:12 [SuzyQ] Well, this puts an end to our Budget Chat, but PLEASE hang out for a while if ya like!

21:55:32 [SuzyQ] I'm with ya Bookwood

21:55:43 [Timon] Good Job SuzyQ

21:55:52 [SuzyQ] It took me a few weeks to find my way when I moved to Orlando - the place is a mess!

21:56:03 [SuzyQ] Thanks, Timon - I hope that you have a great evening!

21:56:19 [Bookwood] Thanks Suzy Q great ideas!

21:56:23 [SuzyQ] We've got to head out and eat some dinner - (west coast time and all)

21:56:44 [BetsyAnn] Great chat everyone!

21:56:55 [SuzyQ] Thanks' everyone for all your input!! *See* you soon!

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