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21:04:00 [Collette] Hi Nanci!!
21:04:42 [Collette] Hi Cindy! Have we met?
21:05:02 [CindyTh] I don't think so, this is a first for me
21:05:19 [Tink1] hi Collette and Cindy
21:05:33 [Tink1] welcome to Tagrels then Cindy
21:05:38 [Tink1] hey Mike
21:05:42 [CindyTh] Thanks
21:05:50 [Collette] That's great!! I don't chat as often as I would like. Glad you're here!
21:05:50 [MikeS] Good Evening Ladies.
21:05:54 [MikeS] Hi Nanci
21:06:05 [Collette] Hi Mike!!
21:06:08 [MikeS] Hi collette and cindy.
21:06:25 [CindyTh] Hi Mike
21:06:31 [MikeS] Hey BR.
21:06:36 [Collette] Hi BRose!
21:06:41 [Tink1] hi Briar Rose
21:06:43 [BriarRose] hello gang!
21:06:52 [CindyTh] BriarRose, love the name
21:07:09 [BriarRose] thank you have had it for years LOL
21:07:38 [MikeS] Yeah...that was gonna be my stage name but she beat me
to it 
21:07:50 [Collette] I really wish I had chosen something unique when I first started online.
21:07:50 [BriarRose]
21:08:03 [Tink1] waiting to see if anyone else mosies in
21:08:23 [Tink1] Cindy, since your new-I will warn you
21:08:32 [BriarRose] oh tink your chats are fab surely they will!
21:08:51 [Tink1] I type like shj*t
21:09:09 [MikeS] Like Shaft?
21:09:16 [BriarRose] tink typing 101
21:09:18 [CindyTh] That makes me feel better, my typing is bad too
21:09:31 [Tink1] summer is a low time for chats BR, so I wont be hurt
21:09:58 [Tink1] I usually get most of the letters, just not in the right order. Collete will pass out the decoder rings
21:10:07 [Tink1] :-)
21:10:11 [CindyTh] I am a teacher, summer is better for me
21:10:23 [Collette] will do 
21:10:31 [Tink1] GOod, no grading then!
21:10:50 [Tink1] Airfare is a volatile commadity
21:11:11 [Tink1] there is no rhyme or reason for what the airlines do
21:11:19 [Collette] it's the most anxiety ridden part of the trip
21:11:27 [BriarRose] that's no kidding in 1 hour the prince can jump up and down
21:11:34 [Tink1] when planning a vacation, it is good to start to research prior to planning
21:11:37 [BriarRose] oops price
21:11:42 [CindyTh] It is hard to know when to jump in a buy a ticket
21:12:14 [Tink1] Know what the normal fares are for your particular airport. From AVP, my airport avg to MCO is $225-@49
21:12:18 [Tink1] $249
21:12:30 [Collette] I watched flights all 2003 preparing for when I wanted to buy in 2004. It helped a little, but I was still too nervous to wait any longer.
21:12:42 [Tink1] anytime I see the fares go below $225, I tend to buy
21:12:53 [BriarRose] for us we have learned from DFW 200 is a good fair
21:13:09 [Tink1] I recently got $198, which has not been here in a long time
21:13:36 [Tagrel] Hi everyone!
21:13:38 [Tink1] hey tag
21:13:39 [Collette] we fly from minneapolis so all of you are VERY lucky
21:13:51 [BriarRose] hello tag
21:13:54 [Tink1] NW has the market stuck there Collette
21:13:59 [MikeS] i was able to grab RT/NS fares from NH to Orlando for $175.
21:14:03 [Tagrel] I need all the airfare 'help' I can get! 
21:14:14 [BriarRose] good price Mike
21:14:21 [Tink1] In watching my fares, I usually check http://www.itasoftware.com
21:14:21 [MikeS] Hey david wassup?
21:14:26 [Collette] Hi Dave!!
21:14:48 [Tink1] I can program it to look for fares in a radius that I deem acceptable
21:15:00 [Tagrel] I like that site Tink, it seems to list the most fares.
21:15:07 [Tink1] I check my airport, Allentown and Binghamton
21:15:16 [Tink1] all at one time
21:15:30 [Tagrel] Yeah! Binghamton. My hometown airport!
21:15:37 [Tagrel] Flying out of there in July.
21:15:47 [Tink1] there is no hard and set rule for when sales come.
21:15:50 [BriarRose] mr cruiser
21:15:51 [Tink1] BUT
21:16:18 [Tink1] I have found that Tuesday to Thurs at midnight are the times I tend to get the lowest fares
21:16:35 [Tink1] the airlines update prices 4-5 times a day
21:16:38 [Tagrel] That is a good tip Tink! I'll have to try then.
21:16:49 [Tink1] 8am, noon, 5pm, 8pm and midnight
21:17:03 [Tink1] weekends they uupload less
21:17:13 [Tagrel] WHY do they make it so difficult to book? And why so difficult to change plans - even way in advance?
21:17:22 [CindyTh] Do you contact the airlines directly, or use a third party?
21:17:32 [Tink1] when they upload they will only list 7 seats in each class of service
21:17:34 [BriarRose] ET tink?
21:17:55 [Tink1] I call the airlines, or I book online through their website
21:18:02 [Tink1] yes Briar
21:18:25 [MikeS] Me too...deal only with Southwest airlines.
21:18:34 [Tink1] If your playing arund, you can play so much that you falsely elevate the fares
21:19:08 [Tink1] when those 7 seats in the cheapest fare are "gone" from playing, you end in a higher tier
21:19:12 [Collette] is that "playing around" as in checking fares constantely?
21:19:21 [Tink1] then you wait a bit.......they will come back
21:19:28 [Tagrel] I've seen that happening when I've been 'looking' Tink
21:19:43 [Tink1] checking is fine, if you hold the flights at all
21:19:45 [Tagrel] Hi Connie!
21:19:53 [Pockets] Hi all
21:19:55 [Tink1] hey pockets!
21:20:12 [Collette] how are flights "held"?
21:20:12 [Pockets] Sorry I'm late
21:20:35 [CindyTh] How far in advance will airlines make reservations?
21:20:46 [Tink1] 330 days prior
21:20:55 [Collette] Hi Connie!
21:20:59 [Tagrel] I was late too. We lost the really good fares!
21:21:01 [Tink1] when you pretned to go through weith the booking, but then cancel
21:21:23 [Tink1] To set their fares, airlines juggle supply and demand with precision. Using their powerful computers, they lower or raise fares according to how fast the flight is filling up.
21:21:26 [Collette] I see, thanks!
21:21:39 [Tink1] (can you tell I typed that up prior!)
21:22:00 [Tagrel] I've found that different sites have different prices, and that the lowest prices could be on any one of them. Why are some sites lower, some days?
21:22:01 [Collette] didn't notice
21:22:20 [Tagrel] Cut and Paste is a wonderful thing!
21:22:23 [Pockets] So Nanc does that mean that the fast a flight fills up to more expensive the seats become?
21:22:29 [Tink1] Orbitz is notorious for that Dave
21:22:41 [Tink1] yes pockets
21:23:01 [Tink1] but orbitz is a travel agency owned by the airlines
21:23:11 [Tagrel] sneaky of them!
21:23:17 [Tink1] and they dont play by the same rules as some others
21:23:22 [Collette] On Northwest, you can only check how full the flights are 90 days out. Is there any other way to find out how fast they are filling up?
21:23:32 [Tink1] you will see "unmarried" pairs there you wont see elsewhere
21:23:36 [Tagrel] I've used Orbitz twice now. This trip will be the second time they have had the best price.
21:23:39 [MikeS] You would think that dealing directly with the airlines is the best way to go.
21:23:44 [Tink1] no collete
21:24:20 [Tink1] but with Orbitz, your not dealing with the airlines even though they are owned by them. They are a travel agency
21:24:26 [MikeS] Is everyone here basically talking about RT/NS flights or just the cheapest fare regardless of the number of stops?
21:24:40 [Tagrel] I've tried that Mike - but find both Delta and US Airways have had higher fares than Orbitz unless they are running a special (like companions fly free)
21:24:46 [Tink1] Orbitz is also notorious for having flights listed and priced that cannot be booked
21:25:08 [Pockets] Mike, in booking my flights to Maine I find dealing with the airlines directly has given me the lowest fare but then no one wants to go to Presque Isle, Maine.
21:25:15 [Tink1] we dont have Non stops here mike!
21:25:21 [Collette] I like RT/NS. But I am curious how much more everyone is willing to spend for nonstop?
21:25:41 [MikeS] i got that last year Dave...from SW...get this...i paid $224 for RT/NS and DW flew for free.
21:25:48 [Tagrel] I look at all the one stops. With kids a Non-stop
would be great, but no go! 
21:26:04 [BriarRose] I must say NS is great when you live here!
21:26:21 [Tink1] Dave and I live in "connection" junction
21:26:36 [MikeS] i prefer NS especially for the time factor.
21:26:42 [BriarRose] except we have to drive 2 hours to the airport
21:26:43 [Collette] maybe i need to rethink this nonstop thing
21:26:44 [Tagrel] Ain't it the truth Nanci!
21:26:57 [MikeS] My flight is 2 1/2 hours...Dave you must have close to the same flight time.
21:27:15 [Tagrel] There used to be a Delta non-stop to orlando from Syracuse. We did that before. But its gone now..
21:27:19 [Tink1] connecting isnt bad, gives us time to stretch and smoke
21:27:28 [Tink1] <<bad
21:27:42 [Tagrel] Yes Mike, but with the layover its several hours longer (usually)
21:27:46 [MikeS] So would a NS flight to Tampa and then driving 70 miles to orlando be better?
21:27:48 [Pockets] Guess I am lucky, I can get a NS to Orlando on Delta's Song.
21:27:51 [BriarRose] bad tink bad tink
21:28:12 [Tink1] I woudl rather connect Mike
21:28:22 [Tink1] hate the Tampa drive
21:28:44 [MikeS] nanci...i guess for me it would depend upon time and $$$.
21:29:03 [MikeS] That used to be a nice drive.....25 years ago.
21:29:09 [Pockets] We are of a like mind Nanc. I dislike the Tampa Drive.
21:29:15 [Tink1] once you do purchase airfare, your game is still not over. Some airlines will give you a voucher if flights go down. USAir is one
21:29:37 [Tink1] I wont even fly into Sanford Pockets
21:30:22 [MikeS] Has anyone here flown into Orlando in the early 70's?
21:30:31 [Tink1] you must call them to get the voucher though. They wont just give it
21:30:36 [Tink1] me
21:30:43 [Pockets] We did Mike
21:30:57 [MikeS] So connie you remember mcCoy Jetport?
21:31:18 [Tink1] I do
21:31:22 [Pockets] Yes!
21:31:31 [MikeS] That's how the Orlando airport got it's designation...MCO.
21:31:44 [MikeS] A little trivia.
21:31:59 [Pockets] That I never new. Should have guessed
21:32:02 [Tink1] Make sure you sign up for any FF programs on airlines you fly
21:32:12 [Tagrel] I've been checking USAirways, but our flights have
only gone up in price. We like to fly at the 'popular' times.
21:32:41 [Tink1] I got $198 here Dave
21:32:47 [BriarRose] that's happens with those teachers tag!
21:33:11 [Tagrel] Ours was $220. In Orlando by 11:30am.
21:33:24 [Pockets] Nanc, Does Delta every give vouchers if the price drops?
21:33:26 [Tink1] $220 is the norm here
21:33:38 [Tink1] Delta does......with difficulty
21:33:48 [Tink1] that are not as forth coming
21:34:06 [Tagrel] I waited for MONTHS for it to come down to $220. Was $250 for EVER!
21:34:08 [MikeS] Wow Dave...must be an early flight.
21:34:51 [MikeS] i thought that gas prices would hike airfare.
21:35:04 [Tagrel] Flight leaves around 7:10a
21:35:31 [Tink1] They have tried Mike,, there has not been enough support from all the lines
21:35:50 [BriarRose] that's not to bad what will be your first stop Dave?
21:35:57 [Tink1] unless air is fantastic, do not book on weekends'
21:36:30 [Tagrel] We are flying through Pittsburgh. LOVE that airport!
21:36:30 [Pockets] Why Nanc?
21:36:31 [Tink1] weekends are when ONE airline will institute an increase, if the other lines do not respond in like by MOnday, they drop it
21:36:49 [Tagrel] We are flying on Fri/Mon to get a better fare.
21:36:58 [CindyTh] I used to live in Pittsburgh
21:37:01 [BriarRose] that one was rated one of the great ones for a layover
21:37:06 [Tink1] Airlines tend to do that on weekends since people have time to think about vacations, and travel agencies are closed.
21:37:24 [Tink1] I like Pitt, and Cincinnati
21:37:26 [Tagrel] Hi CindyTh! Saw you joined the site! Welcome!
21:38:04 [CindyTh] Thanks, I understand you are a teacher too, Tagrel
21:38:19 [Tink1] just like increases, if one airline announces a sale, the other follow suit normally
21:38:31 [Pockets] I think the mid week fares are generally cheaper but not on my trip to Maine. It is cheaper to travel Sat or Sun. Planes are so small the weekday trips are taken by business travel
21:38:36 [Tagrel] Nope, I'm a software developer. My DW is a Teacher. Primary Special Ed.
21:38:37 [MikeS] They are sheep.
21:38:38 [BriarRose] such price fixing
21:38:51 [Tink1] so if you fly Delta, and US air has a sale, wait and wacth
21:38:57 [Tagrel] I'll make sure to look during the week from now on!
21:39:11 [Tink1] BUT there is NO collusion BR! ask any airline
21:39:19 [BriarRose] my DH watches airfare everyday
21:39:30 [MikeS] i always try to fly Tues, wed, or thurs.
21:39:34 [Tagrel] LOL Tink!
21:39:35 [BriarRose] LOL tink and I'm a giant frog
21:39:44 [Tink1] tell him to watch at night BR
21:39:50 [Collette] we're flying Wed/Wed - got close to the best deal then
21:39:57 [Tink1] <doesnt thnk BR looks green
21:40:08 [Tagrel] Even better Mike. But I NEED those weekends for my
plans!
21:40:09 [Tink1]
21:40:18 [CindyTh] I have to go, thanks for letting me join your chat!!
21:40:21 [BriarRose] he does that too l keep telling him he needs to be a Travel Specialist
21:40:29 [Tink1] thanks for coming Cindy
21:40:40 [Tagrel] Goodnight Cindy!
21:40:47 [Tink1] we dont even do air since it is so volatile
21:40:48 [BriarRose] night Cindy
21:40:49 [MikeS] nite cindy.
21:40:50 [Pockets] Good nite, Cindy
21:40:51 [Tagrel] Stop in ANYTIME!
21:40:54 [Collette] nite Cindy!
21:41:14 [BriarRose] Tag the commando planner
21:41:43 [Tagrel] Its a sickness BriarRose! Ask
my DW!
21:41:51 [Tink1] Travelocity and those have fare watchers, but they are usually dleayed in getting to you
21:41:55 [BriarRose] that's ok I have it too!
21:42:28 [BriarRose] tink we get Direct specials From American each week
21:42:34 [Tagrel] Called Debbie at DCL today to make Palo and Spa
ressies! She is as nice as everyone says!
21:42:44 [Pockets] I noticed with Travelocity that by the time I get the notice..the fare is not available. Does that happen to anyone else?
21:42:51 [Tink1] she is
21:42:56 [Tink1] yes Pockets
21:43:07 [BriarRose] I can't wait til October and Tink we are using you suggestion for Cayman
21:43:32 [Tink1] Nativeway is great. Moley loved them too
21:43:52 [Pockets] Nativeway?
21:44:00 [BriarRose] suggestions for Cozumel?
21:44:05 [Tagrel] The Stingray tour is awesome! You'll love it!
21:44:17 [Tink1] the company I used for the stingray
21:44:29 [Tink1] we hopped a cab to Play Del Sol Beach club
21:44:32 [Tagrel] Are we done with Airfare? On to cruises?
21:44:33 [BriarRose] we've been practicing in our pool with our snorkel gear
21:44:40 [Pockets] Thanks
21:44:43 [BriarRose] LOL tag sorry
21:44:46 [Collette] I almost bought Sun Country flights. The one flight per day thing worred me in winter. Anyone ever fly those (and I can't for the life of me think what to calle them)
21:44:53 [Tink1] but Disney has an excursion, a seperate beach area and seperate buffet
21:45:22 [Tink1] Sun Country ahs been around a long time, is a charter type company
21:45:31 [Tagrel] No problem here. Perfectly happy to talk cruises!
21:45:37 [Tink1] we go with the flow Tag
21:45:49 [BriarRose] I think we will just hop the cab CHEAPER
21:46:09 [Tink1] Looking on doing a Group Cruise out of NYC next June if anyone is interested
21:46:13 [BriarRose] so what is the best time to get to ther terminal
21:46:20 [Tagrel] OK - some more Debbie at DCL info: She is cruising
next week. On DCL. Bet her plans are all set!
21:46:27 [Tink1] it was BR, $30 Van for a bunch of us, and $8 to get in
21:46:49 [BriarRose] she probably has a great room too!
21:46:56 [Tink1] I like to get to terminal by 11
21:46:59 [Collette] Where does the cruise go from NYC?
21:47:07 [Tagrel] and she has the coolest voicemail message recorded by
the same guy that does the monorail spiel. She told me he works with
them! I want him to record MY voicemail message!
21:47:10 [Tink1] we leave disney at 10
21:47:18 [Pockets] I would be interested in a cruise out of NYC.
21:47:20 [BriarRose] LOL Tag!
21:47:34 [Tink1] we are looking at Bermuda or the Eastern Caribbean
21:47:45 [BriarRose] so what time do we start bording the "boat"
21:47:50 [Tink1] waiting to see what RCCL and Celebrity are going to offer
21:48:02 [Tink1] about 12:15-30
21:48:36 [Tink1] for some of us, the drive is easier than getting air (see I tied it in!)
21:48:43 [BriarRose] the commando tourer in me wants to know all details -
can't leave to chance
21:49:09 [BriarRose] we have a great cruise out of galveston
21:49:13 [Tagrel] THAT would be a good cruise for my mom. She won't fly.
Share details when you have them!
21:49:29 [Tink1] will do Tag
21:49:32 [BriarRose] so how does one reach debbie to book spa stuff
21:49:56 [Tink1] we did western last time BR, Alaska this summer so want something else next year
21:50:09 [Tink1] you book the REAS package BR
21:50:18 [Tagrel] We booked the Romance Escape at Sea Package (REAS)
21:50:32 [Collette] DCL sadly exists only in my dream world. Have fun planning!! Thanks for all the great flight info, Nanci! Nite all!
21:50:32 [Tagrel] Moley should get a cut!
21:50:47 [Tagrel] Night Collette!
21:50:55 [Pockets] nite Collette
21:51:00 [Tink1] night COllete
21:51:01 [BriarRose] night collette
21:51:03 [Tink1] thanks
21:51:27 [Tink1] I too have to head out a few early. have to call the west coast
21:51:28 [BriarRose] so what is on REAS?
21:51:48 [BriarRose] night tink
21:51:53 [Tink1] thanks for coming y'all. Pockets, hug that cute hubby for me
21:51:57 [MikeS] Nite Collette and everyone....time for me to go.
21:52:01 [Pockets] Nite Nanc
21:52:05 [Tagrel] We wanted to do the couples cruise, and the REAS package isn't a lot more than the cost of that. With the welcome gift basket, Palo ressies, etc its a pretty good deal.
21:52:15 [Tagrel] lol, oops, couples massage!
21:52:16 [Pockets] Will Do ;-)
21:52:19 [BriarRose] thank you tink
21:52:27 [BriarRose] LOL tag
21:52:37 [Tink1] night
21:52:43 [Tagrel] Thanks Tink!
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