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21:00:32 [MargaretJ] Hey Dave what happened I was logged in & then logged out & got this msg.... The room you were in has been removed by the administrator.
21:00:38 [Tagrel] Hi Margaret! Sorry I bounced you when I cleaned out
the room! 
21:01:01 [Tagrel] I erased the old stuff lying around in the database.
21:01:01 [MargaretJ] Oh that was weird.
21:01:57 [SuzyQ] Hell Tag & MJ!
21:02:02 [MargaretJ] Hi Suzy
21:02:08 [SuzyQ] ooops! That would be HELL-O!!!
21:02:14 [Tagrel] Hi Suzy
21:02:26 [Tagrel] LOL - WELL! 
21:02:31 [Tagrel] Hi BA!
21:02:35 [MargaretJ] Gosh I did not even notice that Suzy
21:02:43 [SuzyQ] Hi BetsyAnn!
21:02:46 [MargaretJ] Hi Betsy
21:03:07 [SuzyQ] Hi Sheryl - Welsome!
21:03:10 [MargaretJ] Hi Sheryl
21:03:12 [BetsyAnn] Hey SuzyQ, MJ and Tagel and now Sheryl
21:03:13 [Tagrel] Hi Sheryl!
21:03:16 [Sheryl] good evening all!
21:03:22 [SuzyQ] ok, as you ca see - I am not typing the best tonight! 
21:03:41 [SuzyQ] I think my nails need to be filed because I'm missing keys!
21:03:41 [Tagrel] Woo Hoo, 9:03 and 5 people! Is that a record? We have
a chat winner!
21:04:12 [Sheryl] I'm ready to learn
21:04:14 [SuzyQ] Playing with colors. . .
21:04:23 [Sheryl] And Suzy, my typing always ahs errors...LOL
21:04:34 [Sheryl] no matter what
21:04:43 [SuzyQ] Great, Sheryl! Have you ever bought or sold on Ebay?
21:05:12 [BetsyAnn] I know nothing about E-bay
21:05:14 [Sheryl] no, we have set up an account, but I am really enrvous about buying over the internet
21:05:22 [BetsyAnn] changing colors
21:05:31 [Sheryl] Hello Pixie
21:05:32 [Tagrel] Hi Pixie!
21:05:32 [MargaretJ] Hi pixie
21:05:35 [SuzyQ] Hi Pixie-girl!!
21:05:51 [pixie] Hi! Are we ready to make some money?
21:05:52 [Sheryl] lll
21:05:53 [Tagrel] I remember I was nervous the first few buys... Then it
gets easier... Then it gets TO easy!
21:05:59 [MargaretJ] I have bought things on EBay but never sold. I think I may want to get into selling now.
21:06:13 [SuzyQ] It would be cool if we had some bolder colors like dark green (that's for the Irish in me!)
21:06:19 [Tagrel] My older DVC pin I bought arrived just the other
day...
21:06:28 [MargaretJ] Right you are Tagrel. I had to make myself stop, especially when those darn pins first came out.
21:06:44 [Sheryl] I guess I'm nervous because my Dad had a terrible problem with someone trying to steal his identity last year...they linked it to stuff he did over the internet
21:06:46 [Tagrel] Hint, hint - huh Suzy!
21:06:59 [pixie] Sorry tagrel I stole your color!
21:07:31 [MargaretJ] I only use Money Orders when I buy
21:07:33 [Tagrel] Thats OK, I'll share... And I won't even give you
Ariel hair!
21:07:36 [SuzyQ] Yeah, that can be tricky, Sheryl - though I think that is about as rare as when people steal your phone card number by looking over your shoulder. I buy most items online - even cleaning products!
21:07:36 [Tagrel] Hi LGC!
21:07:41 [MargaretJ] Hi Cheri
21:07:55 [SuzyQ] Hey there LGC!!
21:07:59 [LimeGreenC] Hey everybody,sorry I'm late. (fellasleepon thecouch)
21:08:04 [Sheryl] Hello Cheri
21:08:23 [Tagrel] I REALLY like paypal... So easy to use. and I've had only good experiences so far...
21:08:27 [SuzyQ] Who me leave a hint, Tag? Never! (Though a nice
turquoise wouldn't be bad either!
21:08:35 [pixie] That was so funny Tagrel!
21:08:38 [Sheryl] thats good ton know\
21:08:57 [Tagrel] Maybe I can delete that nasty lime green color.....
21:09:50 [MargaretJ] Oh them's fighting words, hope Cheri is still not awake.
21:09:54 [SuzyQ] OK, well let's get the ball rollin' officially, shall we? Let's see a show of hands (letters) who has experience with EBAY. None, Some, Lots, Need Ebay-anonymous
21:09:59 [LimeGreenC] what nasty green color? LOL
21:10:13 [Tagrel] YES - thats the one!
21:10:22 [pixie] I buy lots!!!!
21:10:22 [LimeGreenC] this one?
21:10:31 [MargaretJ] I have bought quite a few times, never sold.
21:10:37 [Tagrel] Hi, my names Tagrel, and I'm addicted to ebay...
21:10:39 [SuzyQ] Yikes, Cheri - you're blinding me!
21:10:58 [BetsyAnn] Get rid of that one, Tagrel, please
21:11:01 [LimeGreenC] I've bought a few things, sold 2 things and got burned once
21:11:05 [pixie] I feel your pain Yagrel! LOL
21:11:10 [Tagrel] I have a PILE of stuff on my desk at this moment to post over there to support my Disney habit...
21:11:11 [BetsyAnn] LOL
21:11:14 [LimeGreenC] (I'll be red tonight
21:11:20 [SuzyQ] I have made some purchases on Ebay, haven't sold yet, but have spoken to quite a few good friends about it.
21:11:21 [MargaretJ] What happened Cheri?
21:11:22 [Sheryl] having trouble posting
21:11:35 [LimeGreenC] Hang on Sheryl
21:12:10 [Sheryl] No ebay excperience here
21:12:17 [LimeGreenC] I was trying to get my rating up, since I had never sold. So when the bid was over, I sent the pins I had sold before I got my money
21:12:23 [pixie] Hi Ali!
21:12:24 [SuzyQ] Did most of you begin by just making a few small purchases to get your feet wet?
21:12:25 [Tagrel] I had one bad experience out of around 100 transactions.
21:12:27 [Sheryl] Hello Alikat
21:12:34 [alikat] Hi, Pixie! Hello, everyone else
21:12:36 [MargaretJ] Hi alikat
21:12:41 [SuzyQ] Hey there Alikat - welcom to our Ebay Your Way to Disney Chat!!
21:12:46 [Tagrel] Ouch Cheri.. That a BIG no-no!
21:12:53 [LimeGreenC] the girl insisted she had not gotten the pins and had sent the money. I finally got tired of the nasty email and just chalked up to experience
21:12:57 [Tagrel] Hi Alikat!
21:13:10 [LimeGreenC] NEVER send the merchandise with the moolah in hand!
21:13:14 [MargaretJ] I have had one slightly bad experience. Can't really even call it bad. The item was new but not exactly as described.
21:13:32 [alikat] I just noticed that there was a chat in progress... i really don't know much about "ebaying my way to disneY' but wanted to stop in nonetheless
21:13:33 [SuzyQ] I heard that it is a good idea to get your rating up by making a few purchases before selling??
21:13:46 [Sheryl] Gesh, I'm glad to know that, I'd send it right away to them
21:13:56 [Tagrel] Buying is the best way to start. Few people will buy from someone with no ranking.
21:14:00 [SuzyQ] glad to have you here, alikat - many of us are just getting started.
21:14:05 [MargaretJ] We don't know much either alikat. This is our way to talk & learn.
21:14:36 [MargaretJ] Hi AndyL
21:14:39 [LimeGreenC] Hey Alikat, and AndyL
21:14:40 [Tagrel] I even wait for personal checks to clear before I send the item.
21:14:47 [SuzyQ] Hey there AndyL - Welcome to the Ebay your way to Disney chat!
21:14:47 [Sheryl] Hello Andy
21:14:51 [Tagrel] Hi AndyL!
21:14:54 [AndyL] Hi there
21:14:54 [BetsyAnn] Hey Andy!
21:15:19 [LimeGreenC] the wierd thing is the buyer gave me great feedback about the item being great and arrived very quickly
21:15:25 [Sheryl] I've heard you can choose how you want payment...would taking payment by paypal make it easier?
21:15:27 [SuzyQ] Who can briefly tell us how PayPal works - I usually just use my credit card for purchases.
21:15:32 [MargaretJ] Excellent idea Dave, I got burned by a personal check once - it was not EBay but from a Disney buddy. I learned very quickly.
21:16:07 [LimeGreenC] that is a good idea Tagrel, and maybe even a separate account for "ebay" checks
21:16:16 [Tagrel] LOL cheri - I got a negative because I complained that an item was terrible quality (that was NOT described in auction!) I was going to let it go!
21:16:30 [AndyL] Paypal is is an instant payment system used by buyers and seller
21:16:34 [SuzyQ] mmmmh, that separate account idea seems good, LGC.
21:16:52 [pixie] How do you know what an item may be worth?
21:16:58 [Tagrel] payments through paypal are VERY easy, and you don't have to wait for money orders, etc.
21:17:06 [MargaretJ] I have a ECount Credit Credit that I think I will use. It is one of those that you put Money on it but looks just like a MasterCard.
21:17:10 [AndyL] check completed sales for that
21:17:38 [Tagrel] Pay pal is an online service now owned by ebay.
21:17:38 [SuzyQ] Thanks, Andy. Do you need to have it linked to a bank account or is it just one of those account floating in cyber space?
21:17:53 [LimeGreenC] so how do you get money OUT of your paypal account? Do you "cash" it in or what?
21:18:01 [Sheryl] I'm such a sap, I'll probably take a bad comment to ehart
21:18:05 [MargaretJ] But doesn't PayPal ask for your Checking Accout info?
21:18:08 [Tagrel] You place a credit card on file, and/or have them deduct directly (or deposit) to your bank account.
21:18:19 [Tagrel] Very trustworthy, since ebays name is on the line
21:18:21 [AndyL] link it to a bank account or a credit card
21:18:50 [Tagrel] Anyone with an paypal account can pay for and/or receive payment for items using the service.
21:19:02 [SuzyQ] Pixie, in answer to your questions here are a couple of ideas: 1) check out what other Ebayers are asking 2) check out Epinions.com if it is a fairly new item
21:19:09 [MargaretJ] Sheryl you have a chance to respond to the comments.
21:19:19 [pixie] I haven't given them my checking account info. I may open a seperate account for that.
21:19:22 [Tagrel] It makes the payment (given or received) instantaneous, saves a trip to buy a money order and is free (for the most part)
21:19:57 [Sheryl] thats good to know Margaret
21:20:09 [MargaretJ] PayPal seems like a good idea, I like getting money right away & you don't have to worry about it getting lost via mail.
21:20:12 [LimeGreenC] so paypal, can credit your credit card?
21:20:33 [pixie] I had great luck with PayPal
21:20:39 [Tagrel] If you receive over a certain amount of transactions (selling), then you have to get a 'pay' account where they charge you 2.9% on sales.
21:20:40 [SuzyQ] What are some of the things that you all (who sell) have put up for sell? Was it easier than you thought or harder?
21:20:56 [Tagrel] I've had ZERO problems with paypal before and after ebay bought them.
21:21:03 [Tagrel] Used them since they opened.
21:21:21 [MargaretJ] How much do you have to pay EBay?
21:21:27 [AndyL] I tend to sell duplicates of books I have
21:21:29 [Tagrel] Yes, you can charge right to your credit card if you like
21:21:46 [LimeGreenC] I sold a couple of the 100 years of Disney pins that were only available at the Disneystore every Saturday
21:21:55 [Tagrel] I have never paid ebay anything, I think it is still free - they make money through the seller percentage.
21:22:28 [Sheryl] Dave, any idea what the amount of sales would be ?
21:22:31 [MargaretJ] That's what I meant Tagrel, doesn't the seller have to pay a percentage to EBay for items they sell?
21:22:40 [Sheryl] befroe teh percentage?
21:22:55 [AndyL] no there's a eBay fee based on price listed and a percentage of sale if I remember right
21:23:00 [SuzyQ] So, the 2.9% is a PayPal charge for items sold over a certain amount. Ebay does not charge? (just trying to get clear)
21:23:08 [MargaretJ] I have a bunch of Disney License Plates we thought we might sell. I also have a copy of Song of The South that I might sell.
21:23:46 [SuzyQ] Oooh, MJ - I just got SotS last year - Zipiddy do dah!
21:23:56 [Tagrel] paypal fees are described here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside
21:23:59 [Sheryl] I ahve a ton of household items...things that I cannot live without, and then I get bored with them after a while
21:24:01 [LimeGreenC] the Song of the South would sell! Heck I might even buy it!!!!
21:24:11 [SuzyQ] Tag, you are so snazzy with those links!
21:24:32 [Tagrel] Ok, Margaret, now I understand. Yes ebay charges for selling items
21:24:43 [pixie] As a compulsive shopper like me you must have lots to sell! LOL
21:24:46 [Tagrel] LOL, cut and paste suzy!
21:25:02 [Sheryl] You bet Pixie
21:25:04 [SuzyQ] OK, so when you decide that this pile in the guest room should be sold, you just take a digital picture and post it?
21:25:21 [Tagrel] I want that Song of the south!
21:25:41 [MargaretJ] Cheri it is a copy of Song of the South I got at that British Store that went out of Business in Orlando.
21:25:42 [LimeGreenC] I'm seeing a bidding war here at Tagrel.com
21:25:43 [Tagrel] Dave fights with Cheri over SOS
21:25:43 [Sheryl] ok
21:26:14 [AndyL] yes you can use http://www.photobucket.com/ to store and link your picture
21:26:14 [SuzyQ] [side note: When Cheri sells her copy of SotS, I know a place in Orlando where you may get a couple - but not tellin' until Cheri's sells]
21:26:28 [LimeGreenC] And Cheri will always win
21:26:32 [BetsyAnn] who needs e-bay - can do it here!
21:26:38 [SuzyQ] I mean MJ's copy
21:26:41 [MargaretJ] Cheri & Dave I am willing to sell it, but just know that it is a copy. As long as you have a good VCR it is pretty good.
21:27:11 [Tagrel] I find pictures to be VERY important for auctions
21:27:27 [SuzyQ] most SotS are "OK" at best because they are pretty much reproductions at best. Coming from Europe most likely.
21:27:29 [Tagrel] Complete descriptions, and good images help sell items.
21:27:29 [AndyL] Disney prolly watches for bootleg copies on Ebay
21:27:45 [SuzyQ] Tagrel, do you do pictures for clothes and such?
21:27:45 [Tagrel] If it is a bootleg copy, you might have trouble MJ.
21:27:46 [LimeGreenC] We actually bought a SoS from Ebay for my MIL and then had to have it converted to VHS at Wolf Camera,
21:28:21 [MargaretJ] It looks real - it has the Song of the South Cover on it, does not say it was a copy.
21:28:29 [SuzyQ] Some SofS are not bootleg - they are considered imports if you purchase them from an import store. Disney will not produce it in the US, but they are not illegal.
21:28:43 [LimeGreenC] Tagrel, all copies of SotS are "bootlegs" so to speak, since they are "banned" here in the US
21:28:44 [Tagrel] Ebay accepts standard HTML for your auctions. You can get as fancy or plain as you like.
21:28:52 [BetsyAnn] Are there rules about what can and can't be sold on E-bay?
21:29:03 [Sheryl] I've never seen SotS
21:29:16 [Tagrel] Ah... I see. I thought it was just not SOLD in the US,
they can't really BAN it...
21:29:23 [pixie] My niece sells on e-bay and she sets up a nice display when she takes he pictures. She does quite well.
21:29:23 [LimeGreenC] BA, you can't sell your kidney, somebody tried that a couple of years ago
21:29:38 [LimeGreenC] some people are just idiots
21:29:50 [Tagrel] OH yes, lots of rules, and they will bounce illegal auctions and support law enforcement if needed.
21:29:59 [SuzyQ] Good question, BetsyAnn - I notice there are a lot of "I am selling a no. 2 pencil for $50. This pencil will be mailed to you with 10,000 American Airlines miles for free . . ."
21:30:00 [MargaretJ] OK this one says it was Digitally converted for use on American Video System.
21:30:25 [Sheryl] I ahve mainly household items..LOL
21:30:30 [AndyL] what about escrow Targrel??
21:30:34 [SuzyQ] Sheryl, love the movie - it makes many of the rides at WDW make sense.
21:30:39 [BetsyAnn] the ghost in a bottle caught my attention
21:30:42 [Tagrel] LOL Suzy, I missed those!
21:30:45 [LimeGreenC] I personally would never buy an ebay item if there were not pictures
21:31:20 [Sheryl] I guess I'll ahve to see it sometime
21:31:24 [LimeGreenC] I don't want NO ghost, bottle or not
21:31:33 [SuzyQ] Oh yeah, Tag, just look up airline miles - they are a hoot to read to see how creative people are. You are not allowed to "sell" airline miles, but you can give them away.
21:31:39 [MargaretJ] I have tons of those silly Beanie Babies still - we want to sell them in lots.
21:31:51 [Tagrel] To sell items, I first do searches on completed items to see how other auctions selling those items are doing.
21:31:53 [SuzyQ] . . . I've even heard "I am selling a 37 cent stamp . . . "
21:32:31 [MargaretJ] Tagrel you mentioned before you get the boxes from the Post Office. Do they care how many you take at once?
21:32:36 [Tagrel] LOL, we have a big bin of Beanie Babies here too MJ
21:33:13 [Sheryl] Do you jsut walk into the psot office and take the boxes?
21:33:20 [MargaretJ] We spent last week looking them up on EBay to see if any were worth much. A few were selling for over 10.00.
21:33:20 [Tagrel] Not sure MJ. I've only taken what I needed, but I also ordered online, and have enough for AGES now!
21:33:21 [Sheryl] or do you need to ask for them?
21:33:39 [Tagrel] They should have a Priorty Mail rack in the PO
21:33:49 [LimeGreenC] I've only seen boxes for sale at the Post office
21:33:51 [Tagrel] Just grab what you need, but ours seems to be empty alot.
21:33:59 [SuzyQ] Another tip I have read is to post your auction so that it closes on a Saturday afternoon. Then more people are apt to be on their personal computers and may bring the bidding up.
21:34:03 [MargaretJ] Where did you buy the Postage meter? I like knowing ahead of time how much it weighs.
21:34:05 [Tagrel] JUST the Priority mail boxes are free.
21:34:29 [Tagrel] I bought a postal scale at Staples years ago...
21:34:32 [LimeGreenC] oh, I see Tagrel
21:34:37 [Tagrel] I just round up.
21:34:54 [LimeGreenC] I bet you could buy a postage meter on Ebay
21:35:04 [SuzyQ] MJ, many post office actually have a little scale with weight/price posted. Otherwise Office Depot seems to have the best prices.
21:35:10 [Sheryl] Do you need to insrue teh box?
21:35:15 [Sheryl] insure
21:35:36 [Tagrel] I find the late evening is also good. Maybe not during survior, but typically I shoot for a 10 - 11pm time for auction completion. It completes at the same time you post it.
21:35:49 [SuzyQ] Sheryl, I think that you can post that if the buyer would like insurance, it costs an additional amount - but you would have to state that.
21:36:09 [Tagrel] Insurance is typically optional. I make it manditory on all fragile items.
21:36:12 [MargaretJ] I know Suzy but I want to be able to weigh the item in the box before I post the item on EBay so I know what to put for postage.
21:36:25 [SuzyQ] So, a typical auction is how long? A week? Can it be shorter?
21:36:50 [Tagrel] Another good thing is Delivery Confirmation. This tells you that the item was delivered and help the PO track lost items. Just add it to postage cost.
21:37:50 [MargaretJ] Man I wish I lived in Orlando sometimes. I was trying to buy a 2004 Disney World calendar & they were selling way above the cost.
21:38:01 [Tagrel] I think its 3 - 7 days standard auctions and for an extra fee you can make it 10 days.
21:38:41 [Sheryl] what if something does not sell?
21:38:41 [Tagrel] You can take the items to the post office boxed up and they will weigh they for you.
21:38:47 [Sheryl] can you reup it
21:38:55 [SuzyQ] I've noticed that maternity clothes are a big seller . . . though I'm not buying . . . yet . . .honest!
21:39:08 [MargaretJ] Here is another hint. Never leave feedback until the buyer posts theirs first.
21:39:18 [Tagrel] If something gets zero bids, then you make relist it once more for free
21:39:21 [BetsyAnn] lol SuzyQ --
21:39:23 [MargaretJ] Are you sure Suzy?
21:39:27 [LimeGreenC] thanks for the link Andyl!!
21:39:32 [Sheryl] ok thanks
21:39:38 [pixie] Thanks AndyL
21:39:48 [MargaretJ] Maybe I missed it but how much does it cost to list?
21:39:55 [LimeGreenC] Suzy, that's how rumors get started
21:40:00 [SuzyQ] LOL, MJ, positive! I still have to get one more trip
to WDW in there sometime!!
21:40:08 [Tagrel] Good idea MJ - I've asked by sellers and buyers to leave me feedback before too.
21:40:15 [Sheryl] Did I hear someone say Suzy was expecting?
21:40:35 [LimeGreenC] LOL Sheryl See suzy?
21:40:37 [Tagrel] Congrates Suzy!
21:40:51 [SuzyQ] nah, Serioulsy, mybest friend is pregnant and she tells me how quickly they are rushing through. Lots of women need the clothes but jsut don't want to buy new what they wear for a few months.
21:40:54 [Tagrel] Just waitly BA posts this chat!
21:41:08 [SuzyQ] Bad, Dave - bad, bad, bad!
21:41:53 [Tagrel] Where was I before the big news....
21:41:55 [BetsyAnn] Thinking will need to be very specfic about this one
Suzy - that's how rumors get started!
21:41:57 [Sheryl] I jsut took over some of my hubbys clothes ane stretched them even more
21:41:58 [SuzyQ] ANYWAY, I did have a bad Ebay experience - but it was mostly my fault because it was too good to be true. .
21:42:25 [LimeGreenC] LOL Suzy
21:42:35 [LimeGreenC] what did you buy Suzy?
21:42:54 [BetsyAnn] Tell us more Suzy
21:42:57 [Tagrel] When buying on ebay, ALWAYS check the sellers feedback first. Look for those all important negatives, and read about them
21:43:10 [Tagrel] They can say a LOT about the person involved.
21:43:48 [Tagrel] I have one negative from a seller (jerk), so they don't always mean the person is bad, sometimes you just get a bad egg...
21:43:48 [SuzyQ] I bought a digital camera - it was less than a hundred dollars under the "Buy Now" category. I sent emails beforehand asking questions, all seemed well, sent check, check was cashed, then no camera. Waited a week or so, sent emails, no response, no longer on ebay - nothing.
21:44:04 [pixie] When buying you should also check the shipping charges. Some people inflate them big time.
21:44:37 [Tagrel] That is fraud Suzy, and you can follow up with ebay. This seller may have swindled many people...
21:44:42 [MargaretJ] That's true pixie. I refuse to buy something that has the shipping really jacked up.
21:44:48 [LimeGreenC] that stinks Suzy! 
21:45:01 [AndyL] which bring to mind my earlier question /. What about Escrow on eBay?
21:45:16 [Tagrel] Yes, I always check the charges, and I don't bid on the ones that have OPEN shipping charges.
21:45:25 [Sheryl] That would really upset me
21:45:30 [LimeGreenC] what is escrow on Ebay?
21:45:32 [SuzyQ] HOWEVER, I did manage to get another email off to him with a link to "Fraudulent activity via US Post office is a Federal Crime" Meaning, because I sent my check using the US post office and they cashed it, I could turn them into the police (of course that is the cliff note version).
21:45:35 [Tagrel] I have never used escrow on ebay, but is sounds like a great idea for those big ticket items.
21:45:46 [SuzyQ] Let's just say that they sent me my money back.
21:46:07 [Tagrel] You pay the escrow account. The seller ships item to you. You receive item, and then seller gets paid from escrow.
21:46:17 [pixie] Good thinking Suzy
21:46:35 [MargaretJ] What if you are the seller & the person who bids has tons of negatives. Can you refuse to sell to them?
21:46:43 [Tagrel] LOL Suzy, GOOD for YOU!!!!
21:46:51 [LimeGreenC] A friend of mine bought one of those "too good to be true" computers on ebay, it was overseas and it took him ALOT to get back his $350
21:46:52 [BetsyAnn] escrow sound like a good idea
21:47:04 [AndyL] good question Margret
21:47:18 [MargaretJ] A guy at my company bought a car on EBay!
21:47:34 [SuzyQ] Good question, MJ. I would imagine that it all boils down to whether your receive the money or not - that is why paypal is good because it is instant. Can there be a runner up, though??
21:47:44 [Tagrel] I think you can disable certain buyers if desired. And if you post in your auction that no one with negative feedback allowed...
21:48:07 [LimeGreenC] I also wonder about selling to a specific area.... is that safe to have somebody come pick something up at your house?
21:48:27 [LimeGreenC] I'd love to sell my son's train table, but it would cost a fortune to ship
21:48:35 [Tagrel] Never done that either LGC
21:48:48 [MargaretJ] Yard sell Cheri.
21:48:51 [Tagrel] I'd put that in the paper LGC
21:48:52 [SuzyQ] I would be a little weary of having someone at my home, LGC. Perhaps delivery?
21:49:04 [MargaretJ] Yard Sale Cheri - that looks better
21:49:04 [LimeGreenC] yard sells are hard work!
21:49:12 [BetsyAnn] My answer LG is NO WAY - have a yard sale!
21:49:12 [pixie] My niece listed a nice pair of hardly worn sneakers. A man started asking weird questions about them and wanted a picture of her wearing them.
21:49:26 [Sheryl] Cheri, what about a consignment shop?
21:49:30 [LimeGreenC] well, you still have people at your house with a yard sale
21:49:35 [SuzyQ] OOOh, LGC, my husband needs a train table! (got him an engine for Christmas). Wanna take a trip to seattle!!?
21:49:40 [MargaretJ] Put up a note at work then, Ken too. Maybe somebody there will buy it Cheri.
21:49:42 [LimeGreenC] good idea sheryl, that might work
21:49:42 [AndyL] creepy
21:49:43 [Tagrel] I love our yearly yard sale! Neighborhood one with
TONS of people who pay me for our trash!
21:50:01 [MargaretJ] Ewww creepy pixie
21:50:16 [LimeGreenC] LOL suzy, this is a Brio train table and about 50 million pieces that he never plays with
21:50:39 [LimeGreenC] ewwww pixie that is freaky!
21:50:40 [SuzyQ] That's true . . . but I don't usually put the sale in the paper. When people come by - they already knew where I lived. But that's a good point. Plus you have a hubby to be "bouncer"
21:50:43 [Tagrel] scary Pixie...
21:50:43 [BetsyAnn] You are playing to a large market if you put it on E-bay -- you can never be 100% sure but limited the market can help
21:50:47 [LimeGreenC] Hi Pam
21:50:50 [pixie] Hi Pam
21:50:53 [MargaretJ] Hmm Cheri maybe my sister would want it. She just bought some Brio for my newphew.
21:50:58 [Tagrel] Hi Pam
21:50:59 [MargaretJ] Hi Pamy
21:51:01 [DisneyPam] hey kids...
21:51:04 [SuzyQ] Well Hello Pam! Wlecome to our Ebay Your Way to Disney chat!!
21:51:08 [Sheryl] See now that is why I wanted to try ebay. I find that at yard sales, poeple around here want to give you a quarter for everyhting, even clothes that are brand new with a tag still onhtem
21:51:09 [BetsyAnn] Hey DisneyPam!
21:51:16 [Sheryl] Hi Pam
21:51:30 [LimeGreenC] MJ, that might work out... see who needs ebay?
21:51:35 [AndyL] hi Pam
21:51:36 [DisneyPam] * DisneyPam would like to E-bay my way to my new apt but I need a digital camera I think
21:51:41 [pixie] My niece sells lots of kids clothing
21:51:56 [MargaretJ] Hey want to trade Brio for Song of the South?
21:52:01 [Tagrel] Yes, pictures make a huge difference in sales on ebay.
21:52:03 [LimeGreenC] that is true for yard sales here Sheryl... and I get offended
21:52:24 [Tagrel] Hey, no fair MJ!
21:52:36 [LimeGreenC] MJ,LOL I think my brio table is more than SotS
21:52:41 [SuzyQ] Is it hard to upload pictures on ebay? You know I am a little deficient in that area.
21:52:57 [LimeGreenC] See Tagrel, I ALWAYS win! You remember that
21:52:57 [Tagrel] I just tell them no! We have so many people, we don't need to come down on prices.
21:53:00 [MargaretJ] Just kidding Dave!!! I already bought my newphew his present for his 4th Birthday.
21:53:27 [Tagrel] OK, I have to go lock Cheri out of the system... a week should do it... be right back
21:53:30 [Tagrel]
21:53:42 [LimeGreenC] You'd better not
21:53:45 [AndyL] no, the only trick is to use a storage area for the photo offsite
21:53:45 [BetsyAnn] ROFLOL
21:53:50 [Tagrel] MJ gets to stay now...
21:54:11 [MargaretJ] What exactly does that mean Andy?
21:54:13 [AndyL] and link to it
21:54:17 [LimeGreenC] Margaret Margaret Margaret
21:54:23 [Tagrel] Didn't you learn ANYTHING from Dennis... Wait til you
see YOUR picture Cheri!
21:54:27 [MargaretJ] Thanks Dave.
21:54:30 [SuzyQ] Now, now kids (LGC and Tag), I think that I will just have to force myself to make the huge sacrifice of going back to Orlando so that I can get you both copies.
21:54:34 [AndyL] sort of like how we use avantars here
21:54:34 [BetsyAnn] Do you need to host your own pictures for E-bay!
21:54:52 [Tagrel] Excellent point Andy. I do that.
21:54:56 [LimeGreenC] ROFLOL Tagrel
21:55:12 [MargaretJ] Suzy is that store still open, I bought mine from British something & it closed.
21:55:13 [AndyL] http://www.photobucket.com/ has free storage
21:55:22 [LimeGreenC] Suzy, that would be a huge sacrifice, but you are so
sweet to do it !
21:55:32 [AndyL] tho they take donations
21:55:44 [Tagrel] I put BIG detailed pictures on my ISP site for ebay auctions. Then link them in my auction.
21:55:57 [SuzyQ] Mmmh, MJ, when did you get it? I purchased mine from the British Pantry(I think) that is over by the Fashion Mall on Coloniel.
21:55:58 [LimeGreenC] is there a limit to how many pictures you can store?
21:56:04 [SuzyQ] I got it last year.
21:56:19 [MargaretJ] I got mine from Old Town.
21:56:20 [Tagrel] LOL Suzy - (I'm way behind reading here...)
21:56:48 [SuzyQ] Would storing your pictures at a place like kodak.com or snapfish be considered a "storage area"?
21:57:06 [AndyL] are you asking me or tagrel?
21:57:11 [LimeGreenC] I don't think you can link from Snapfish
21:57:14 [MargaretJ] You mean it is not as easy as putting a picture on Tagrel.com? I may be in trouble.
21:57:17 [BetsyAnn] I don't think Snapfish will let you link
21:57:29 [SuzyQ] I'm asking anyone who knows the answer
21:57:34 [LimeGreenC] I'm asking about photobucket
21:57:38 [Tagrel] Only sites that allow remote linking of images will work (since the ebay servers will be serving the pages)
21:57:53 [BetsyAnn] It is very easy MJ -- I can do it!
21:58:04 [SuzyQ] Tag, any suggestions of some? Are there any that are free?
21:58:10 [Tagrel] I haven't used photobucket... have to check them out.
21:58:20 [AndyL] no limit if you make a donation as I'm aware of it now
21:58:25 [Tagrel] I always use my own... sorry.
21:58:51 [LimeGreenC] I'll have to check out photobucket Andyl
21:59:00 [SuzyQ] oh yeah! Tag has a web page!! Duh.
21:59:08 [Tagrel] Yes, thanks Andy!
21:59:39 [LimeGreenC] I need to get going, great chat MJ and Suzy! and everybody!!
21:59:45 [Tagrel] I also have a site on my ISP. MANY ISPs give you storage and a home page. Mine allows for 5 meg of stuff.
21:59:51 [Tagrel] night LGC!
21:59:55 [Sheryl] night Cheri
22:00:02 [pixie] Bye Cheri!
22:00:04 [AndyL] bye LGC
22:00:15 [LimeGreenC] night
22:00:16 [SuzyQ] See you Cheri!
22:00:18 [Tagrel] we never discussed listing fees, or selling fees, want to?
22:00:18 [BetsyAnn] Good night Cheri
22:00:29 [MargaretJ] Nite Cheri
22:00:32 [LimeGreenC] Don't forget to enter your best bumper stickers!!!
22:00:35 [MargaretJ] Yes please
22:00:36 [AndyL] sure
22:00:39 [SuzyQ] Sure! What are the fees?
22:01:00 [Tagrel] There are lots of variables, here is a link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html?fromFeature=Sell%20Your%20Item
22:01:22 [SuzyQ] ok, (didn't read link yet), are there fees on TOP of the 2.9%?
22:01:43 [Tagrel] some basics. Listing fees depend on how much you START your auction at
22:02:08 [Tagrel] 0.01 - 0.99 is 30 cents per auction
22:02:23 [Tagrel] $1.00 - $9.99 - $0.35
22:02:31 [Tagrel] $10.00 - $24.99 - $0.60
22:02:34 [SuzyQ] SO if you are charging a lot (say for a car), and your minimum isn't met, you still pay the fee, right?
22:02:41 [Tagrel] $25.00 - $49.99 - $1.20
22:02:42 [AndyL] then there are extra sevices you can tack on?
22:03:03 [Tagrel] Yes, this is JUST to list the item. Cars are a special case - see link
22:03:13 [Tagrel] Then you pay again if the item sells
22:03:34 [Tagrel] Called the Final Value Fee
22:03:45 [Tagrel] $0 - $25 : 5.25% of the closing value
22:03:55 [SuzyQ] After the insertion fees, then there are picture fees,paypal, etc. Wow! These can add up!
22:04:00 [Tagrel] $25 - $1,000 : 5.25% of the initial $25 ($1.31),
22:04:12 [Tagrel] Over $1,000 : 5.25% of the initial $25 ($1.31),
22:04:26 [MargaretJ] i
22:04:30 [Tagrel] Yes, you have to take them all into consideration when listing.
22:05:08 [Tagrel] It can still be good though. I sold a digital camera for $100 more than I paid for it new! Even after fees!
22:05:25 [BetsyAnn] So with these fees, your rating need to be good so you can attract buyers right?
22:05:33 [Tagrel] I only felt a LITTLE guilty. It was an excellent camera that I got for a steal.
22:05:53 [AndyL] I just do basic and a picture usually. Occasisionally I'll do a second category if people are likely to shop for an item there too
22:06:04 [Sheryl] nothing wrong wiht getting a bargain
22:06:08 [Tagrel] Yes BA. People avoid those selling with no positive feedback.
22:06:08 [SuzyQ] So it seems like that could make things really competitive.
22:06:37 [Tagrel] I do the basics too Andy. Most people search for items. So your description is important and SPELL THINGS RIGHT!
22:07:07 [SuzyQ] OK, so here is a question - do you need ot keep track of everything for taxes?
22:07:16 [Tagrel] Yes SuzyQ - so again, an auction that LOOKS GOOD, has great pictures, and lots of description gets more attention.
22:07:26 [Sheryl] LOL I fail with spelling and typing, I'm already a failure on ebay
22:07:44 [BetsyAnn] Well - the spelling thing would wipe me out!
22:07:46 [AndyL] and use as many possible ways to describe an item yo can for the search wizard to find your listing
22:07:51 [Tagrel] If its a business I think yes, but you don't have to do it for a garage sale, and doing it occasionally falls into this category.
22:08:46 [MargaretJ] So if you a just a casual seller - no taxes?
22:09:03 [SuzyQ] so, if I just put a bunch of old clothes, cd, etc. on Ebay - I shouldn't be worried - since I'm not really making a profit - just recouping some of what I already paid when I bought them.
22:09:13 [AndyL] IRS watches
22:09:34 [SuzyQ] They could be watching now . . . I claim everything, I love my government!
22:09:38 [DisneyPam] sorry...had to call Spirit
22:09:42 [BetsyAnn] I would always keep records - just in case you need them later
22:09:44 [SuzyQ]
22:09:47 [BetsyAnn] wb Pam!
22:09:52 [MargaretJ] But Suzy is right you already paid tax when you purchased the item.
22:10:29 [Tagrel] Keeping records sounds good anyway. I tend to do that
myself. But I VERY seldom sell something for more than I originally
paid. so its NOT a profit. (the camera was a fluke!)
22:10:39 [BetsyAnn] It could be an income tac issue not a sales tax thing - I think MJ????
22:11:17 [BetsyAnn] see - spelling - every time!
22:11:19 [BetsyAnn]
22:11:38 [AndyL] power sellers with a lot of feedback are prolly watched
22:12:00 [MargaretJ] Great chat tonight. I may just be EBaying soon -- selling that is not just buying.
22:12:11 [SuzyQ] Like the ones with 5234 by there name and links to
their website?
22:12:14 [MargaretJ] Got to run - talk to you all later.
22:12:22 [Sheryl] Nite Margaret
22:12:26 [Tagrel] absolutely Andy. Many use ebay as a business. THEY pay
taxes - or else!
22:12:30 [Tagrel] Bye MJ
22:12:31 [BetsyAnn] Good night MJ!
22:12:32 [AndyL] nite MJ
22:12:39 [pixie] Thanks for a great chat MJ and Suzy.
22:12:46 [SuzyQ] Well, glad that you all stopped in and we will have to do a follow-up chat in a few months.
22:12:49 [Sheryl] I need to go also, thanks all. Suzy, tag
22:12:55 [DisneyPam] what about selling items like playbills...you pay for the theatre tix and the playbill is part of that but you don't actually buy the playbill..
22:13:00 [Tagrel] night Sheryl
22:13:06 [BetsyAnn] Good night Sheryl!
22:13:16 [DisneyPam] I'm sorry if I jumped in late and that was already answered...
22:13:33 [AndyL] income
22:13:38 [Sheryl] BetsyAnn, I've goit a box of things coming out to you, jsut needot get paper to wrap the box. Hoping to do taht this week
22:13:39 [pixie] Maybe by the time you do a follow-up we will have tried it.
22:13:39 [SuzyQ] Don't forget we have an awesome Park Ranger Chat this Wednesday!!
22:13:50 [Sheryl] Nite all, tahks
22:13:50 [Tagrel] People sell stuff like that all the time Pam. I think it just comes under collectible.
22:13:57 [BetsyAnn] Thanks Sheryl -- the children will love them!
22:13:57 [DisneyPam] 
easier to give them away then...
22:13:59 [SuzyQ] Pam, Playbills probably wouldn't fall uner profit since you had to pay for the ticket to get the bill.
22:14:38 [AndyL] a few here and there Prolly doesn't trip any switches but don't make a profession of it
22:14:40 [SuzyQ] Thank for all the input everyone - this was enlightening!
22:14:54 [DisneyPam] so confused...lol...too bad I had to work and couldn't get here earlier.
22:15:05 [SuzyQ] Thanks, Andy for your expertise.
22:15:13 [Tagrel] I know people sell things they got for free all the time - not sure how the gov't looks at that. Again, I think it would depend on the number of sales you have. I bet they go after the BIG players.
22:15:15 [pixie] I'm off to get ready for the work week. Night and thanks!
22:15:24 [BetsyAnn] Thanks Pressed Pennies - as always you all rock the chat room!
22:15:35 [Tagrel] We'd surely read about it if the IRS went after a Texas Home selling kids clothes.
22:15:40 [SuzyQ] Oh bummer, Pam - at least there will be a log of it soon. Did you have any pressing questions, maybe there is a quick answer?
22:15:48 [DisneyPam] I just want to purge some stuff b4 I move, lol....figure Ebay might work since I can't have a garage sale here.
22:16:01 [AndyL] like a flea market is watched for regular selllers
22:16:09 [DisneyPam] nope...not really....esp. since I don't have a digital camera yet.
22:16:14 [AndyL] by state taxation
22:16:48 [Tagrel] I'm sure the laws are all defined... I just don't
know. I don't sell THAT much!
22:16:49 [BetsyAnn] Log will be a few minutes after the chat ends -- if I
don't break anything!
22:16:57 [SuzyQ] Things I've learn: host pictures on photobucket.com
for free, be descriptive, don't be afriad of paypal and there are FEES
so read the fine print before posting.
22:17:16 [Tagrel] Sounds good Suzy
22:17:45 [Tagrel] Its scary at first, but you get comfortable with it fairly quickly.
22:18:05 [BetsyAnn] that is life, Dave - that is life!
22:18:11 [SuzyQ] oh - I don't mind. I'm not so people would figure that
out in a few months - heck, you guys are like family so I can take a
little teasing. Who knows, maybe someone will send me some Disney for
kids stuff!
22:18:16 [Tagrel] I have to run myself! Fun chat everyone! Night!
22:18:31 [AndyL] nite tag
22:18:48 [SuzyQ] Night, Tag - have a good one!
22:19:02 [BetsyAnn] Good night Tagrel
22:19:03 [SuzyQ] Thanks for the thought, BetsyAnn. Too funny!
22:19:31 [SuzyQ] I have 4 -yes - four great friend pregnant right now. I gotta wait so that they can babysite when I have kids! LOL
22:20:07 [SuzyQ] OK, kids, I must run as well. It's late for all of
you! I still have to get dinner on!
22:20:18 [AndyL] nite Suzy
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